Ann Williams

[heywood]

As suzard says Williams and Wales is very difficult.

Somewhere in your scant information, you know about William the tea dealer so that may be a start.
You could get a birth certificate for one of the children to ensure you are on the right track.

Then you have a connection with Thomas - what do you know about him- place and year of birth for example.

There is an 1860 marriage- Chorlton on Medlock - possible spouses.

I can't see the couple in 1861 though.
1881 Ann gives her p o b as Llanwain (?) Montgomeryshire
1891 Ann born Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire

Does this help or fit in with what you know?

heywood

[suzard]

So we can rule out the 1871 census -William Hewitt age 34 and Ann wife age 33?

Why do you think the marriage took place in 1850 ?

Have you found the marriage???

Could you give d.o.b. and p.o.b. for Thomas Williams (father of catherine and brother of Ann??)

We can then look for Thomas and Ann with parents


Suz

[heywood]

Right- start again 

1871 RG10; Piece: 3935; Folio: 140; Page: 2
Morgan Williams b 1839 Penal Merionethshire, Tea Dealer
Margaret sister b 1843 born Cardiganshire Eglwys fach

1881
Morgan b 1841 Dolvore, Montgomeryshire
Margaret b Cardiganshire Furnace

1891
Morgan b 1841 Furnace Cardiganshire
Margaret b Furnace

1881  RG11; Piece: 3838; Folio: 36; Page: 22
Griffith Williams b 1846 Llanwrin Merionethshire
Ellen Hewitt b 1839 Leigh- servant - must be related to William 

1901 RG13; Piece: 3623; Folio: 91; Page: 41
Griffith is married to Ellen now - p o b Montgomeryshire Dolfor

so there are a variety of places of birth for the family

[heywood]

think this is the family
1851 HO107; Piece: 2495; Folio: 341; Page: 5
Factory Dolfor Glynceiriog Montgomeryshire

Griffith Williams 64 yrs Farmer of 37 acres and Wool Draper b Dolgelley
Catharine Williams 46 yrs Farmer's wife b Cardigan Llanfihangel
Susan Williams 23 yrs Farmer's daughter employed at house b Pennal
John Williams 16 yrs  son  - ditto-
Anne Williams 12 yrs daughter b Llanfihangel
William Williams 11 yrs  -do-
Morgan Williams 10 yrs -do-
Margaret Williams 8 yrs  -do-
Catharine Williams 6 yrs Montgomeryshire Llanwryn
Griffith Williams 5 yrs  -do-

1841 HO107; Piece 1372; Book: 20; Folio: 9; Page: 10

Furnace Llanfihangel Cardiganshire
extra children
Robert 10 yrs
Thomas 9 yrs
neither born in county

[Hugh BlacK]

I think my in laws can work out who is who from this...thanks again.

[karinclark]

If you want to know about Catherine Barbara Williams she is my g grandmothers sisters daughter and the farming family is Robers. Ffloulkes Roberts...Denbigh...K
I have family photos