Author Topic: Pottinger's of Berkshire & Ireland  (Read 4699 times)

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Pottinger's of Berkshire & Ireland
« on: Friday 09 July 10 05:32 BST (UK) »
Hello everyone
Just wondered if anyone has got or has sighted the letter that is held at the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland the catalogue describes it as below. I've just spend quite a few pounds with them lately and the kitty is rather empty so was hoping someone might have this.  :)
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Linda

Public Record Office for Northern Ireland
PRONI Reference : D3113/7/169
Level : Item Access : Open
Title : Two accounts of early history of Pottinger Dates :
No Date Description : Two accounts of early history of Pottinger family, one of them possibly referred to in D3113/7/166. Note by William Pottinger, dated 30 July 1873, confirming and adding to information.
'Thomas de Pottinger married to Agnes, a daughter of the Earl of Warwick (presumably illegimate) was killed at Hatfield, April 13, 1471 - the day before the Battle of Barnet. Agnes took refuge in Bruges with two sons, and an infant daughter who subsequently married Pierre Vauban, and was mother to the great marshall. The second son became a merchant in Bruges, and from him are descended the Pottingers of Berkshire. The eldest son entered the service of the States, and commanded a Regiment of Cavalry in which he was succeeded by his son or grandson Thomas who was taken prisoner near Frankfort-on-Maine by Philip, Count de Bethune. He escaped through the assistance of Fanny de [?Brillaise], the Count's daughter, who accompanied him to England, where they resided some years at the Hoo in Hertfordshire. He followed Sir Walter Raleigh to Ireland, and, after the defeat of Essex by Hugh O'Neale, Earl of Tyrone, he accused Hugh De Clapham and Ambrose Seton who commanded a Scotch contingent of cowardice and killed them both the same day in duels, for which he was outlawed by Queen Elizabeth and fled to Venice, where he was afterwards [?assassinated]. His wife entered a convent at Clones and survived him many years. His eldest son, Walter, was killed in the expedition of Guiana under his godfather Sir Walter Raleigh. His second son was a naval captain and father to Thomas Pottinger, who assisted with the subjugation of Ulster with Arthur Chichester and Moises Hill, receiving grants of land both in Down and Antrim, where he settled and was elected sovereign of Belfast in 1661. His brother Edward was Sheriff of Carrickfergus after the Restoration, and as such, signed an address to Charles the Second in 1683.

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Re: Pottinger's of Berkshire & Ireland
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 February 14 16:45 GMT (UK) »
In the records of the French noble house of Béthune, the first man I can find named Philippe was Philippe de Béthune, Count of Selles-sur-Cher and of Charost.

He had only one legitimate daughter Marie, born in Rome in March 1602, who married François Hannibal, Duke of Estrées, and left children. If he also had a daughter Fanny/ Françoise, it looks as if she was illegitimate or else her father was a different Philippe Béthune, not noble.

[Source: Du Chesne, André. Histoire Génealogique de la Maison de Béthune. Paris, 1639.]