William Jones and Andrew Fleming Bancroft

[sellio]

William Jones, born (around) 1834 in Great Boughton, Flintshire was a plasterer and builder in Liverpool in the late 1800's.
He is my great, great grandfather.
He went into partnership with his son in law, Andrew Fleming Bancroft (born 1859, Manchester) building and brick making. I have a bancrupcy notice which says their business was the Borough Road Brickworks. They were declared insolvent in December 1899 and managed to recover from this in 1903. William and Andrew F show up on all the census returns, including 1901 and 1911, except 1891. I just cannot find them at all.

William was married to Elizabeth (Edwards) b. 1829 and the 1881 census shows him living at 8 Marmion Road as head of the family. also listed on this census are two daughters, Mary Laura and Sarah Edith. He is listed as a plaster and builder.

The 1901 census shows him living with Andrew Fleming Bancroft at 3 Kingsland Road, Tranmere, Birkenhead. This is the same address shown in the London Gazette in 1899- 1903 when reporting the bancrupcy proceedings.

The 1911 census shows Andrew & Family living at 1 Oxford Drive, Waterloo, West Derby. Andrew Fleming Bancroft is now listed as an estate agent.

Please can someone help me to find them on the 1891 census. I would also like any information at all on the Borough Road Brickworks, Birkenhead.

Thanks.
S.

[cath151]

Hi,
 They are both at 21, Victoria Mount, Oxton, Birkenhead in 1891.
RG12/2892  57/49
If you need a transcription just ask.
Best wishes
 Cathy

[sellio]

Absolutely fantastic! A transcript would be brilliant. I don't know how you did it; I've been looking for ages.
Thanks.
Sheila
 

[cath151]

Hi,
Doesn t seem to be on A******,

William Jones  head  mar  56  Builder   Boughton, Flints.
Elizabeth "      wife    mar  58                Holywell, Whitford.
Sarah E   "       dau    s       24               Liverpool, Lancs.
Andrew F Bancroft  son in law  mar 29  Estate Agent and Builder  Manchester, Lancs.
Mary L      "               dau           mar  26                                         Liverpool, Lancs
Albert T F  "          grandson               1mo                                      Birkenhead, Cheshire.  

Cathy

[sellio]

Cheers!
Any knowledge on the brickworks or how I can get info?
S.
xx

[cath151]

Hi,
Sorry no info about brickworks, hope you find something.
Best wishes
 Cathy

[sellio]

Thanks Cathy, maybe I shoud start a new thread just about the brickworks..
S.
 

[andrew_bancro]

Just seen this great site, and this thread.  ANDREW FLEMING BANCROFT is my great grandfather's brother.
And I confirm that he did move to Birkenhead, originally as an estate agent, and then helped in this business of brick manufacture and building.  I don't know exactly when he moved or why, but I know he lodged.  His name is somewhat original.  He was born in 1859, (not 1862) and was first a solicitors clerk, when he was about 22 years old.  Born in manchester, with two sisters, Ann (1851)and Mary(1856), a brother George(1865), and my Great Great Grandfather, Samuel. (1853) I appreciate the details of his marriage, as I have up to now concentrated on my GGF. and GF. who all (apart from A.F) stayed in Manchester.   'Samuel' and 'Andrew' seem to be a consistency in my ancestors.  My Grandfather is Arthur Andrew Fleming Bancroft.   My father is Arthur Bancroft.  And I am Andrew Bancroft (1956)

Andrew Bancroft

[stanley_bancro]

Hello andrew_banco,

I have just read the information you posted. Andrew Fleming Bancroft was also my Great Grandfather. My Grandfather was Gordon (1894) and my father was Stanley Leonard Gordon Bancoft. I was born in 1945.

I also have a first cousin, Michael, and although we live in seperate parts of the UK, we are pooling our researches. We would love to be in contact with you and share information.