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Annie MENHAM
« on: Wednesday 07 July 10 14:34 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find information about the husband of Annie Menham, who was Arthur Hill.  They were married in Stoke Damerel in 1863 but he does not appear in the census for the years following the marriage so guess he was in the army. Can anyone help?

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Re: Annie Menham
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 July 10 14:41 BST (UK) »
if you want to trace him back, a good start would be their Marriage Papers, as well as showing his age & his job, it should reveal his Fathers name.

I see that in 1871 she calls herself an 'Officers Wife' .

Given where she's from and where they married, he could well be a Naval Officer?

1891 census might be the key - cant find any of the Family tho  >:(

She's 'Head' in 1871, 1881 (West Ham with young son Herbert born Kensington) and 1901 in Hoole, Cheshire.

You could also see his 'occupation' in 1868 by getting Julia's Birth Certificate

Births Mar 1868   
 
Hill  Julia Rona I     Stoke D  5b 361


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My money's on this lad:

1861 census - Royal Engineer Establishment Brompton Barracks, Gillingham Kent  RG9; Piece: 480; Folio: 74; Page: 4

Arthur Hill 19 (c1842) Unmarried - Lieutenant, Royal Engineers. born Devonshire, Stockland.

 
Births Mar 1842 

 
Hill  Arthur     Axminster  10 7

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Re: Annie Menham
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 July 10 17:19 BST (UK) »
Hmmmm that man finally shows up again in 1901, married to a woman 30 years younger with 2 very young kids.

Its the same man as seen in 1861, still linked to the Royal Engineers, now a retired Colonel.

His wife Dora, is Irish and I cant see a marriage in FreeBMD.

RG13; Piece: 1009; Folio: 128; Page: 3 Hampshire, Alverstoke.

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Re: Annie Menham
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 July 10 18:29 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all that, I have got his marriage certificate and, although difficult to read, I think he is in the Royal Marines.  However, I cannot find any trace of him after the wedding so guess he must be abroad, but cannot find him in any of the military records.  The Herbert referred to was my grandfather.  Many thanks


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Re: Annie Menham
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 July 10 18:38 BST (UK) »
I'd think he'd have left the Marines by the time Herbert was born in Kensington 1875ish? Not likely to live far from a relevant barracks?

Then they were in West Ham, and finally in Cheshire - I'm sure 1891 would help ....


How about the youngest's Birth Cert (or was that Herbert ? ) was Arthur still in the Marines then?


Lost my bet then ...... :P

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Re: Annie MENHAM
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 July 10 15:26 BST (UK) »
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I have got his marriage certificate and, although difficult to read, I think he is in the Royal Marines

forgot to ask if his Father is shown?

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Re: Annie MENHAM
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 July 10 16:05 BST (UK) »
Hello There...

Hope I am not gate crashing....

1891 census

4 St James Road , West ham , Essex

Annie Hill / wife / married / age 48 / born Plymouth
Julia Rosa Hill / Daughter / age 23 / born Stoke Damerel
Herbert Jas Hill / son / age 14 / scholar / born Kensington

RG12 1336 64

1891 census

12 Starkie Street Preston , Lancashire

Arthur D Hill / boarder / age 21 / Mechanic Telegraph Dept / born Plymouth

RG12 3441 11 15

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Re: Annie MENHAM
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 July 10 16:17 BST (UK) »
Classic Ancestry - lumped in with the Willshaws (giving the Head 2 wives   :D )

Good find, but yet again the errant Arthur isnt at home.  :(

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Re: Annie MENHAM
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 July 10 16:52 BST (UK) »
Me Again.....

What do yo think to this ?

1871 census

Battalion of Royal Marines, for Service on China Station. HMS Princess Charlotte, Hong Kong

Arthur Hill / age 33 / married / 2nd Captain / born Worcestershire

I have not , as yet located him on any other census.

I will PM you with some other info.

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