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Hello
I am new at researching my family tree & Rootschat so hope you can help?  I have a pictrue of my Great Gran Annie Morris, born 1880, the one in the blue dress.  Through research, I have obtained a picture of her as a young girl and one perhaps older, they grey photo...Can anyone tell me firstly if they are the same person, and if so, what year the pics may have been taken?  If it helps date she married in 1910 and died 1919.

Also if anyone can tidy up the old grey one, then that is fine by me  : )

Also, is anyone knowledgeable on hairstyles and advise if her hair was a "style" of that time? it looks a bit odd to me (sorry great Gran! haha).

Many thanks in advance    :)


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Re: Can anyone date these pics and advise if they are all the same person plz?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 July 10 14:32 BST (UK) »
Sorry, the pic I have of her in the blue dress did not down load...here it is

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Re: Can anyone date these pics and advise if they are all the same person plz?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 July 10 15:10 BST (UK) »
I am sure they are all the same lady,  she is lovely...the hair does look unusual... will have a closer look.

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Re: Can anyone date these pics and advise if they are all the same person plz?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 July 10 15:13 BST (UK) »
Thank you.   :)
It is weird how my Nan had the blue dress photo and her Brother had the crinkled grey photo, yet both didn't know they had them, I have uncovered this by asking around years on after they have died...
I would love to know how old she was in each pic if possible as she died aged 38 in 1919 sadly ...

Thanks again


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Re: Can anyone date these pics and advise if they are all the same person plz?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 July 10 17:16 BST (UK) »
Picture 2 1889-93.This bodice style with the raised shoulder called a kickup was a short lived style between these dates.She looks early 20's.
Picture 1 looks early 1900's but there's not much to see,she looks early to mid 20's.
Picture 3 I can't quite make out what she's wearing but I would say around WW1.
It would help if we could see what cardstock these are on & if there's anything on the back.

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Re: Can anyone date these pics and advise if they are all the same person plz?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 July 10 18:04 BST (UK) »
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Picture 2 1889-93.This bodice style with the raised shoulder called a kickup was a short lived style between these dates


Hi jim

I often see replies here dating pictures by dress styles, but how accurate is it?  Would women in the north of England be as up to date as the women in London say, and would women have worn out of style dresses because they couldn't afford new ones - or would they not have bought 'fashionable' dresses in the first place?

I'm not crticising your expertise  :D - just curious to know how much research has actually been done.

Keep up the good work

Linda
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Re: Can anyone date these pics and advise if they are all the same person plz?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 July 10 19:05 BST (UK) »
Hello again  : )
I am afraid I only have the original picture of the one in the blue dress...on the back written in scruffy cursive writing in pencil is "dress light blue, beads white, complexion fresh"....The picture has been cut to fit in an old frame so it shows nothing else.  The material is quite stiff like card....does this help?

If the young picture is c. 1889 - 1893 it would suggest she was 9 - 13years old ....so wondering if Linda's theory is possible in that she was wearing an old dress (she was from a poor family)? I would think she was maybe a tad older?

Also, would you say all three pics are def. the same lady? (I hope they are).

Thanks again, I really appreciate your help and expertise  : )


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« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 July 10 19:50 BST (UK) »
If picture 3 is on stiff card then it's a cabinet card rather than a postcard so I doubt later than WW1 & probably at the earlier end.
Picture 2 shows a young woman with a modern short hairstyle worn by fashionable women in the 90's.The heavily embroidered bodice in the Oriental style indicates a quite expensive garment unless she was a dressmaker & made it herself.
Women all over the Empire wore the latest fashions within a few months of introduction thanks to fashion periodicals which were much sought after by all classes of women,even those on the lower social scale could at least alter a dress to look modern.
Having a photo taken was considered an occasion & Sunday best would have been worn & would have been that which was in fashion at the time.
Outfits at this time were made rather than bought,although "store bought" dresses were emerging as an alternative this was more a 20th.C trend as was one piece outfits.
A woman of substance would use one of the upmarket dressmakers/milliners & shown the latest fashions & materials,a woman of the mainly middle classes would use local dressmakers & take along a picture of what she wanted,a woman of the lower classes would make her own from pattern books or alter what she had.
In my view picture 2  looks completely different from the other 2, eyes, mouth & chin aren't the same.

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Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
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Re: Can anyone date these pics and advise if they are all the same person plz?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 July 10 19:59 BST (UK) »
If I can beg to differ Jim,  :) I think they are all the same lady.

The eyes have it!
Best wishes, Judy :-))


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