Tamar Chapman, Turner St, Mile End

[trish1120]

1851 Census
Hacconby Mill,
Hacconby, Lincs
HO107/2095/330/24
Tamer CHAPMAN, 42?, Head, Widow, Miller/Baker, born Lincs, Little Gonersby
Dorothy, 15, Daug
Robert, 14, Son
Lucy, 7, Daug
Mary, 9, Daug
William, 3, Son
All children born Hacconby
+ also in Household
Ann BAKER, 8, Neice, born Little Gonersby
Charles WELLSMAN, 25, Lodger, Unm, Grocer/draper
Robert THORPE, 22, Journeyman, Miller
William SMART, 23, Journeyman, Baker
Christopher MAUN, 19, Servant
Ann BOYER, 18, House Servant

[trish1120]

I think they may have lost the Mill by 1861 as Tamer is back to Fannythen.
I will post tomorrow as its 2.00am here.

Cheers,
Trish

[irjames]

Thanks for all the info.
The story passed down from my uncle who did all the family history is that Tamar born in 1838 was so sickly and not expected to live that she was christened immediately. She did survive and was christened again in 1843.

Ian

[irjames]

Other possible Holtermann tie ups to the above info are

bmd - q4 1860 in Mile End Old Town, birth of Fazar Philobena HOLTERMANN

1871 census in Hackney, Anne HOLTERMANN b. about 1834 in Lincolnshire

Plus, if Henry was actually born in Prussia, not Russia, there is an IGI record for HENRICI HOLTERMANN christened 4th Apr 1829.

Ian

[ElvisMole]

Hi

Just to add ....

The first Tamar and the first Sarah COULD have both died young?
The next child each time being then being named T then S.

The reason I put this forward is because none of the others were christened twice, AND other info says Tamar was "sickly".
My immediate reaction when I saw the list (without thinking) was the loss of two children.

I'll do the DeathReg legwork later (as I've added the extra possibility) b4 the footie.

Ray

[Valda]

Hi

St Andrew Hacconby
11th February 1846
Sarah Chapman Inf.


No other burials of infants to this family from the list of baptisms given.


Regards

Valda

[Herts Heart]

Well done, Valda.

R

[dunholt]

Hi there.I`m new to Roots chat and not sure if the following is still of any interest to you but I am g.grandchild of Tamar Holterman nee Chapman. She married William Henry Holterman and had three children by him.I went to South Africa in 1981 and found his grave at Spreeufontaine ,a farm in the Little Karoo area.He was killed in an ambush during the Boer War in 1901.
 Of the three children,Dorothy emigrated to Canada,Elizabeth at 13 was in an institution and William( my grandfather) was sent to an orphange in the Lewisham area of London.He died in 1974 in South Wales leaving three children of his own of which one is still living.
 I believe Tamar re married a Hemmerway(?)
Tamar Chapman was a daughter of Robert Chapman of Easington near Durham if memory serves me right.
Good luck