Tamar Chapman, Turner St, Mile End

[irjames]

I think I've found my g.g. grandmother, Tamar Chapman, in the 1861 census working as a servant at 20 or 21 Turner St, Mile End. The census page actually shows her as Janar). Unfortunately it is at the start of a new page, so I do not have the details of the family she was working for. Can anyone help. As far as I can work out the reference is RG9/290 pages 114 to 122, though the page I have does not show clearly which page it is, it says 18, but may be 118.

Tried to attach the page, but couldn't work out how - I'm new here.

[carol8353]

Hi there and Welcome to Rootschat 

The family she is living with are the Hollerman's.

Henry Hollerman 32 sugar refiner b Russia
Ann wife 27 b Lincolnshire
Jemmar? P dau 6mths b London

Janor Chapman 22 servant b Lincolnshire.

Looks like she knew the wife perhaps...maybe even a rellie/sister?

Carol

[ElvisMole]

Hi

Ms Chapman is recorded as being a Visitor on that sheet.

:-)

Ray

[Eyesee]

According to Pilotsearch, Thomas and Tamar CHAPMAN had a number of children baptised in Hacconby, Lincolnshire in the 1830s and 1840s. Two of these children were an Ann in 1834 and a Tamar in 1838, which would fit with being 27 and 22 in 1861.

Can't see Ann after 1861.

Ian C

[Valda]

Hi

There is a Tamar James born Hackenby, Lincolnshire aged 54 in Yorkshire on the 1891 census RG12 3785 folio 10

In the same Yorkshire parish in 1881

RG11 4613 folio 40
Rotcher Thurlstone Yorkshire
Tamar James 43 Head Widow Laundress Haconby Mill Lincolnshire
Robert Chapman 19 Son Coalminer Middlesex East London
Thomas James 14 Son Coal miner Sheffield Yorkshire
George James 11 Son Aston? Yorkshire
William James 9 Son Dinnington Yorkshire
Sarah Jane James 6 Daughter Thurlston Yorkshire

In Aston Yorkshire in 1871 RG10 4701 folio 58 the 'wife' of John James from Runnington Nottinghamshire


Regards

Valda

[ElvisMole]

Hi

Another search gives Tamor in boarding school in 1851
Bmd carries a Tamor registration 1838 q2 Bourn 14 274

Ray

Moderator comment: Edited for content

[irjames]

Thanks to everyone.
It would explain why she was in London if her sister lived there.
Yes, it is her in Aston in 1871 and Thurlstone in 1881, 91.
She took her name from her mother, and maybe her niece has that name too.

Ian

[Valda]

Hi

1871 census RG10 327 folio 10?0
Fever Hospital Homerton
Anne Holtermann 37 Head Nurse Widow Hacconby, Lincolnshire

Ann is with her daughter Tamar Holtermann on th 1891 census. There doesn't seem to have been a marriage to Mr. Holtermann.


Regards

Valda

[trish1120]

Good find Ian

1841 Census
Hacconby Mill House,
Hacconby, Lincolnshire
HO107/619/1/Hacconby

Thomas CHAPMAN, 35, Miller
Fanny, 30
Elizabeth, 8
ANN, 6
Dorothy, 5
Thomas, 4
FANNY, 3
Robert, 11mths
All born in County

CHAPMANS Christened Hacconby Parents THOMAS and TAMAR/TAMER
ELIZABETH, 26 October 1832
ANN, 04 February 1832
DOROTHY, 09 August 1835
THOMAS WYER, 29 December 1836
TAMAR, 03 June 1838
TAMAR, 26 March 1843
SARAH, 23 December 1845
SARAH, 27 January 1846

So were there 2 Thomas/Tamars having children as 2 Sarahs born close together and another Tamar in 1843?

Submitted Record IGI:
ROBERT Chapman christened 1841 Hacconby, Lincs
Parents;
THOMAS Chapman and Tamar Walton SKELTON

Extracted Record IGI;
Marriage;
Tamar WALTON/Thomas CHAPMAN 18 October 1831, Great Gonerby, Lincoln


Trish