Kelly Family

[ashleighn19]

Hi there,

I'm looking for any information about the Kelly family. I believe William was born abt 1819 in Killarney and married a Mary.. they had 4 children, Elizabeth b. 1847 and Dinah b. 1849-1850 before immigrating to Australia in 1850 abord the Trafalgar. They then had 2 more children after arriving.

I'm looking for any parish records, and any information on Mary's parents and also William's.

Thanks

Ashleigh

[shanew147]

Many Co. Kerry parish records are available (free)  on http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/, including Catholic and Church of Ireland details for Killarney.


Shane

[ashleighn19]

Hey Shanew,

I can't seem to find any of my relatives on there from the dates etc that i have already. anywhere else i could look?

[shanew147]

that's the best online source for Co. Kerry parish records - and they seem to have RC records (I presume the family were likely Catholic?) for the parish of Killarney back to about 1785, which is the same date as the microfilm records in the National Library


Shane

[ashleighn19]

okay. thanks for that Shane. I'm so sorry its taken me so long to get back to this, I found info on other parts of the family and got sidetracked.

i think i need to take things a bit slower.

thanks again!

Ash

[pahern]

Hi Ashleigh ! I do not know how much you know but I hope this helps.
Isabella was my Great Grandmother.
She was  the daughter of William and Mary Kelly of near Saddleworth,  William Kelly was born in Killarney, County Kerry in about 1819. He and Mary, with daughters Elizabeth (3) and Dinah (1) came to South Australia in 1850 on the barque Trafalgar. Isabella was born in 1852 in Salisbury S.A., and a brother William James Kelly was born in 1856 at Saddleworth.  Elizabeth Kelly married George Crawford and they had 8 children. Dinah Kelly married Andrew Grant Johnston: they had 3 children but only one seems to have had offspring.  Isabella became the 2nd wife of Stephen Wellington who was initially married to a Jane Johns.
William James Kelly married Henrietta BERTHA Bray and they had 6 children all born at Clare.

My second cousin, Carolyn Palmer, found a  useful book called "Saddleworth: Hub of the Wheel", which gave me a lot of information about the descendants of Elizabeth Kelly and George Crawford. They have prolific offspring, mostly still around the Saddleworth area, and Carolyn has been able to purchase her  own copy of the book.  George Crawford and his son seem to have been active in every committee and post in Saddleworth over many years, and many businesses up there bore the Crawford name.

 For Dinah Kelly and Andrew Johnston, Carolyn has  found names of a grandson who died in 1973. I have yet to discover whether he continued the line or not.

 

For William James and Henrietta Bertha, Carolyn has  knowledge of a couple of generations, but once again there is more to discover.

 

My  great-grandfather Stephen was the Circuit Minister at Saddleworth/Kooringa for 2 different terms, and his first wife Jane Johns ( who I mentioned above )  and one of their infant sons are buried in Saddleworth.  He was the officiating minister at the wedding of Dinah Kelly and Andrew Johnston, and Isabella was the bridesmaid at this wedding of her sister. At this time, Stephen would have been married to his first wife Jane. He was also one of the Executors of his Father-in-law's Will.

I hope all this helps. What is your relationship with the Kelly's ?

[ashleighn19]

Hi Pahern,

Sorry it has taken me so long to reply, I've been run off my feet in the last few weeks. It is sooo good to find a rellie (even distant ones) on here. very exciting.. also means if we both ended up on the same board, the info we have is more than likely correct!

I have all the information that you have provided me, but again it is verification that we are right!

I have actually spoken to Carolyn a few times through ancestry, and she also suggested that book which I have recently purchased. It is fantastic! such a wonderful resource and extremely well written.

I have information on Isabella and her family.. PM me your real name and I can see if I have you in my tree.

Elizabeth Kelly married George Crawford, who had a son, John William Crawford. John married Emma Traeger and had three daughters. My Grandfather's mother was the second of these daughters. So I'm pretty sure that makes Elizabeth my great great Grandmother

[cpalmer26]

Regarding the family of William and Mary Kelly of Saddleworth, I offer the following corrections.

Elizabeth Kelly married George Crawford, and they have numerous descendants in South Australia and elsewhere.

Dinah Kelly married Andrew Grant Johnston of Butchers Gap (between Saddleworth and Marrabel). Of their 3 children, only Mary had children. Mary became the 2nd wife of George Stephens. Their son Leonard George Stephens (who died 1973 in Hamley Bridge) leaves a widow and 4 children, also grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

Isabella Kelly became the second wife of Rev. Stephen Wellington, and they had 6 children (this is my branch of the family).

William James Kelly remained a bachelor and had no children. This was confirmed by his death certificate: he died 11.11.1915 near Saddleworth. The Kelly surname for our family died with him.

Originally I thought that the William James Kelly who married Bertha Henrietta Bray in Clare was related to this family, but he is not the right one, and his 6 children are not connected to our Kelly family.



Carolyn

[ChristinaJ]

I've a Kelly too. Ellen Kelly born in Ireland about 1819/20, as shown on the 1841/1951 census. She married a William Redding who was born in 1921 in Birmingham. Not too sure date of marriage, can't find on UKBMD.  They had 3 children, Thomas (b1842), Elizabeth (b 1847) and George (b 1851), George was my 2 times great grandfather.  Children were all born in Birmingham (Digbeth).  George was christianed in St Catherines Roman Catholic Church.  William is shown as a soldier on the birth certificate, and on the marriage certificate of George and Sarah Ann Davis.  Just wondering if Ellen and William could have married in Ireland if he was serving over there?  Any help would be appreciated.