Crawford

[AMBLY]

(the B-index column indicates individuals who may be found in that index, with corresponding reference number for further research)[/i]

From the wording (above) regarding the "B Index 339/3"  notation on the passenger list cited, it seems to me there is a possibility of  further information being available about them, held perhaps in the Archives  - and possibly to do with them being Assisted Immigrants.

I don't know how you would go about finding out, but perhaps you could contact the SA Archives for advice?
http://www.archives.sa.gov.au/

I also wouldn't focus too much on John being born "June 1814 and May 1815" by basing this soley on his recorded age at death.
Ages on death certificates can be and often were, wrong - sometimes out by a year or 2, sometimes by much more. At this stage, I would say you couldn't dismiss any possibile candidate born between say, 1812-1820.

Assisted immigrants also were apt to doctor their ages in order to place themselves within official or percieved age-criterias

Cheers
AMBLY

[Rodeo]

Oops! Sorry, Ashleigh. I meant to say South Australia BMD online here:

http://www.familyhistorysa.info/births-marriages-deaths/

Cheers,

Rodeo

[ashleighn19]

hey guys,

Ambly can you please explain to me what the b-index is? I don't quite get it.

Rodeo, I can't find the census record.. you cant possibly send me a link can you?

Also, I haven't purchased the death certificates... only because they are so bloody expensive in SA.. in victoria or NSW they give you a smaller piece of info that you can buy for like 99c... but SA charge you $49 each.

Thanks

Ash

[Rodeo]

I've sent you a PM.

Cheers,

Rodeo

[seanybear]

In my family tree i have the surname Crawford who married into the McKendrick family i wonder if the your Crawford line might be related to my Crawford line that married into the McKendrick line

[DamonC]

It seems I am a good few years late to this thread.

I'm a decendent of the aforementioned John Crawford too. I've been looking into him as well and some to come up against the same sort of road blocks as others who've written here.

I think the 1815 comes from the Death Certificate (which via my uncle I have a copy of) where his age is given as 77 in 1892. The certificate seems to be issued in 1980 so unsure if it's fully correct.
In Aldine history and ships manifest 1817 would be the birth year. My sense is 1817 is correct but can't be sure.
The certificate doesn't really say alot more than what's already known. Died of "senile decay"...so old age I guess.

There are a few aspects of his life I havent been able to work out yet. Janet's death year prior and births in the family are mentioned in multiple newspapers but Johns there is nothing.
A curious aspect to that is all notices family posted said "please copy Glasgow papers" so there was some ongoing connection there.

Also Georges birth, can't find a record of it anywhere. There's some guy born roughly same time in what I believe is the wrong part of the country and parents names aren't correct.
As others noted can't pin them down in the census. The one with kids could be them but then the children either passed away or were left behind in Scotland. Tried to find death records for those names but no luck finding anything definitive.

Like mentioned in this thread there are candidates for Johns birth etc and some I could rule out by finding them in census post Johns 1849 emmigration. So I have a couple ideas. Ie parents James Crawford and Jean Christie. B 1817. But no way to confirm.

I've done a bigY DNA test and this also didn't give anything conclusive. I am a direct match to another Crawford who's ppl emmigrated to the US in the 1830s but from Ireland. I've spoken to the person involved and their family story was they were scottish til they found docs in the US where he gives place born as Dublin and cant go much further.. So whilst there is a definite link to our Crawfords it's likely a generation or two before where either can trace.

I think the B list thing refers to ppl listed in a biographical index. I don't know what that will really mean but I can't find it online. When I'm  back I Oz next I might have to see if a library has it.

[Forfarian]

I think the 1815 comes from the Death Certificate (which via my uncle I have a copy of) where his age is given as 77 in 1892. The certificate seems to be issued in 1980 so unsure if it's fully correct.

It just means that what you have is a copy made in 1980 of the original document that was created in 1892.

[DamonC]

Ah OK makes sense.