Scollon Scallan or Scullion

[decklin]

Hi

I'm trying to trace my family name, SCOLLON in Scotland, I've made it back to Edward SCOLLON married Annie Sherman in 1887, his father was also Edward SCOLLON and mother Ellen B...can't read the rest, which I got from Edward and Annies marriage record. 
I have seemed to hit a wall from here, it appears that their last name could have changed as I understand they may at this point come from Ireland.  Does anyone know how to proceed from here?  And how do I know which spelling SCOLLON was changed from?

Thanks

[aghadowey]

Duplicate post on IRELAND-GENERAL board:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=465764.new#new

[hume]

Hi decklin,

As aghadowey said on the Ireland board, names and their spellings were a lot more fluid in those days and not much attention was paid to how they were spelt, etc. Many families went through many different variations; unfortunately, it does make them harder to find.

You are allowed to post a segment of certificates on SP but not the whole thing. If you could post the part where Ellen's maiden name is written, someone may be able to help decipher it.

I'm not sure if you have this; this is the family in 1891. It confirms the Irish connection for both the Scollon, etc, and Sherman families.

Address: Addie's Square, Bothwell, Lanarkshire
Edward Scollon, m, head, 28, coal miner, b. Ireland
Annie Scollon, f, wife, 27, -, b. Ireland
Martha Scollon, f, dau., 3, -, b. Bellshill
Ellen Scollon, f, dau., 2, -, b. Bellshill

hume

PS. It may also be worth trying to find deaths for Edward's parents in Scotland. A lot of the time the whole family came over at the same time and stayed in (usually) the same area. Once you know Ellen's maiden name, this will be a lot easier as SP indexes married women's former names on the site.

[jonn]

Hello Decklin,

I think you will find Edward Scollon/Scallan, wifes Ellen's, maiden name is Brean.

Edward, and Ellen, were living in Bothwell, Lanark. 1881. with six of a family, all born in Ireland, including son Edward, aged 18 years at that time.

I also think Edward, and Ellen, had one child born in Scotland, called Helen Scollon, born 04/Dec/1874. Bothwell, Lanark. it may well be worth your while getting this birth as there will be a good chance the parents marriage date in Ireland, would be on it.

It also seems this young Helen, died before 1881.

Regards,
Jonn.

[jonn]

Hello Decklin,

The 1881 census,

25 Addles Square, Bothwell, Lanark.

Scallan Edward, Head, Lab. M. 48 years, M. born Ire,
Scallan Ellen, Wife, M. 52 years, F. born Ire,
Scallan John, son, Coal Miner, U. 28 years, M. born Ire,
Scallan Wm. son, Coal Miner, U. 21 years, M. born Ire,
Scallan Edward, son, Coal Miner, U. 18 years, M. born Ire.
Scallan Margaret, Daur, U. 16 years, F. born Ire,
Scallan George, son, U. 10 years, M. born, Ire.
Scallan Mary Jane, daur, 9 years, F. born, Ire.
Breen Thomas, Lodger, Coal Miner, U. 20 years, M. born Ire,
Breen Patrick, Lodger, Coal Miner, U. 18 years, M. born Ire.

The two Breen's, Thomas, and Patrick, are most likely relations of Ellens, and that could be another spelling for Ellen's, surname.

Regards,
Jonn.

[hume]

Small world.

I knew the address was familiar. My 2x great-grandfather stayed (just lodging, I think) at 25 Addie's Square at the time of his marriage in 1901. One of the witnesses to the marriage was an Edward Breen. No doubt a connection to your family.

I have the 1901 census with him so I'll be checking that to find who the head of the household was.

hume

PS. Head of the house was James Scollon, born 1856 in Ireland. He was married to Mary and had quite a large family. In the household is my 2x gg and also Edward, b. 1878 in Ireland.

[jonn]

Hello Decklin,

Annie Sherman, and her parents in 1881.

Sherman William, Head, Coal Miner, M. 47 years, M. born Ire,
Sherman Martha, Wife, M. 50 years, F. born Ire,
Sherman Annie, Daur, Domestic Servant, U. 18 years, F. born Ire,
Sherman Elizabeth, Daur, Domestic Servant, U. 16 years, Born Old Monkland,
Sherman Martha, Daur, Domestic Servant, U, 14 YEARS, F. born Old Mnkland,
Sherman William, Son, Scholar, 11 years, M. born Old Monkland,
Sherman Jane, Daur, Scholar, 7 years, F. born Old Monkland,

Regards,
Jonn.

[jonn]

Hello Hume,

Yes you a correct,

1881. census 28 Addies Square,

Scallan James, Head, Coal Miner, M. 25 years, M. born Ire,
Scallan Mary, Wife, M. 24 years, F. born Ire,
Scallan Edward, Son, 2 years, M. Addies Square, Bellshill.

Looks like the above James, is another son of Edward, and Ellen Breen.

Regards,
Jonn.

[decklin]

Thank you very much for providing all this information, this is my first post and have found this extremely helpful.

Hume:  I actually didn’t have that information from the 1891 census re Edward and his wife so thank you, I have actually not been following either of his daughters, but a son, William who is my great great grandfather and was born in Scotland after this census.
What was your 2x greatgrandfathers name who lived in the house at Addles Square?

Jonn:  Thank you, now that you have mentioned the name Brean, I can see that it is indeed that on the marriage record of their son.  I have found the birth record of Helen Scollon and have found that her parents were married in Enniskillin, Fermanagh, Ireland which is new information for me, so that’s great!  I can now do the same thing for the Sherman’s.