Sugden

[Lisa B]

Hi Valda and Phil.  Just found a Newspaper article about Samuels will giving his personal estate the value of 139,080 pounds. The article also say's he was formally of the firm Sugden Son and Nephew. And he also leaves to Margaret Rawlinson a life annuity of 50 pounds. The rest to his 12 children as listed in the ad. Lisa

[sugsy]

Hi,

I've emailed the Guildhall Library to check if they have a copy of Samuel's will ( probably) and then I'll go up and have a look and print it all out if not too long. will keep in touch!
Lisa - there is a way of calculating which 'remove' cousins we are..when I get time I'll check!
Cheers
Phil

[sugsy]

HI Valda,

I don't have a maiden name for Sarah ( born Wakefield approx 1793..she is on the Dorking 1841 and 1851 census) who married William Sugden ( born 1794 , St Peter ,Leeds). I think they must have married around1820-25 ? But I haven't been able to track the marriage.
Many thanks for any help.
Phil

[Valda]

Hi

You have two children baptised in Dorking to William (bapt Leeds 1794) and Sarah (born Wakefield circa  1793)

WILLIAM SUGDEN: 10 APR 1825 Dorking, Surrey,
SARAH SUGDEN: 01 JUL 1829 Dorking, Surrey

From William and Sarah Sugden's ages you could expect a marriage from circa 1815 onwards and older children. As both were born in Yorkshire their marriage could have occurred there.

e.g. a possible

WILLIAM SUGDEN
SARAH BRIGGS 
Marriage:  15 AUG 1816   Saint John, Wakefield, Yorkshire

with children
 
SAMUEL SUGDEN 
Christening:  31 AUG 1817   Saint John, Wakefield, Yorkshire
Father:  WILLIAM SUGDEN 
Mother:  SARAH BRIGGS 
burial 18th November 1819 Samuel Sugden age 2+

MARY ANN SUGDEN
Christening:  14 APR 1822   Saint John, Wakefield, Yorkshire
Father:  WILLIAM SUGDEN   
Mother:  SARAH BRIGGS

BENJAMIN SUGDEN
Christening:  14 APR 1822   Saint John, Wakefield, Yorkshire
Father:  WILLIAM SUGDEN 
Mother:  SARAH BRIGGS 

 
26th November 1843 St George in the East
Benjamin Sugden Full Bachelor Porter 8 lower King Street William Sugden Labourer
Harriott Upfold Spinster 8 Lower King Street John Upfold Bootmaker
Harriet made her mark
Witnesses Susan Worsam and ? Verralls?


1851 census HO107 1528 folio 201
4 Moors Yard St Nicholas Cole Abbey City of London
Benjamin Sugden 30 Head Married Wakefield Yorkshire
Harriet Sugden 28 Wife Married Dressmaker Bishopgate London

1861 census RG9 311 folio 20
41 Church Street Manchester Road Poplar Middlesex
Benjamin Sugden 38 Head Married Time keeper Ship yard Wakefield Yorkshire
Harriett Sugden 38 Wife Married Dressmaker Bishopgate Middlesex

1871 census RG10 587 folio 63
11 Church Street Manchester Road Poplar Middlesex
Benjamin Sugden 50 Head Married Engine Driver Yorkshire
Harriet Sugden 50 Wife Married Dressmaker London
 
 
Also baptised in Dorking

FRANCES SUGDEN
Christening:  About 10 APR 1825   Dorking, Surrey
Father:  JOHN SUGDEN 
Mother:  MARTHA 

possible burial
25th April 1827 Frederick Sugden aged 14 months


Regards

Valda

[sugsy]

Thanks Valda - will pursue those leads.

The other  mystery I have is the death of  of my gt.grandfather William Sugden:
Born 10/4/1825 ( IGI)
On birth certificate  of  my grandfather Arthur Fuller Sugden 1865 he is as father with occupation art.florist.

Then he disappears until 1887 where on the marriage cert of Arthur Fuller he is registered as deceased.

I have never been able to track down his death. If you can find it or where he was on 1871 and 1881 censuses, I'd be very grateful.

Thank you as ever.

Phil S.

[sugsy]

Hi Lisa,

What is the reference for the newsapaper article - it sounds interesting!

Cheers
Phil

[Valda]

Hi Phil

Already given in a previous post 1/8/10 (in more detail) in response to the previous request for this information 1/8/10

1871 census RG10 421 folio 11
22 Hayne Street St Sepulchre City of London
William Sugden 47 Head Married Artificial florist Dorking Surrey
Harriet Sugden 36 Wife Married Artificial florist Chelsea Middlesex
George Sugden 17 Son Warehouseman Clerkenwell Middlesex
Arthur Sugden 5  Son St Sepulchre Middlesex
James Sugden 2 Son St Sepulchre Middlesex
Emily Sugden 8 months Daughter  St Sepulchre Middlesex

1881 census RG11 374 folio 9
22 Hayne Court St Sepulchre City of London
William Sudgen 58 Head Married Artifial florist Dorking
Harriet Sudgen 48 Wife Married  Artifical florist City London
Arthur Sudgen 15 Son City London
James Sudgen 13 Son City London
Emily Sudgen 10 Daughter City London
plus 7 lodgers


Deaths Jun 1881  Sugden  Harriet  47  London C.  1c 13


The only possible death registration for William in London would be this one

Deaths Dec 1884 SUGDEN  William  61  Poplar  1c 406

Regards

Valda

[sugsy]

Sorry Valda!!!  There's been so much activity on this thread, I forgot to check!!
Thanks again!!!

Phil

[Lisa B]

That's is what has kept happening to me. I'd miss pieces of info. Lisa