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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #63 on: Friday 02 July 10 12:24 BST (UK) »
Could you not ask for a partial release of the census?

I'm not very sure how things work in England, but in Scotland we can get extracts from the 1939 national register. Its something I personally haven't opted for. The only thing is that you have to prove that the person you want information on is dead. This can be done by providing a date of death which they then check.


The only downside is that you don't get the details of every member of the household - just the individual you ask about - and it cost £13 per individual you want checked out.
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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #64 on: Friday 02 July 10 12:54 BST (UK) »
Could you not ask for a partial release of the census?

I'm not very sure how things work in England, but in Scotland we can get extracts from the 1939 national register. Its something I personally haven't opted for. The only thing is that you have to prove that the person you want information on is dead. This can be done by providing a date of death which they then check.


The only downside is that you don't get the details of every member of the household - just the individual you ask about - and it cost £13 per individual you want checked out.

Re 1939 - You can get them in England and Wales too from the NHS Information Centre, at a cost
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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #65 on: Friday 02 July 10 14:07 BST (UK) »
I think the questions on the 1921 census are fairly impersonal and I don't think there would be many people still alive who would object to this information being made available.

I must say that I'm more disturbed that Births, Marriages and Deaths to 2005 are available on Ancestry. My name is there, my children's names are there ... I've checked out ex partners and their new partners, their children, their parents, friend's parents and other family members and I managed to pencil out a couple of rough trees back several generations for a couple of friends .... (I'm not a stalker - honest  ;))


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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #66 on: Friday 02 July 10 16:35 BST (UK) »
This is a very interesting debate. I support Guy's well-reasoned proposal for the release of the 1921 census. Hopefully if enough people get involved then the better the chance it will happen.

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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #67 on: Friday 02 July 10 18:17 BST (UK) »
I think it's a great idea, and will support it fully.

In the hope for reasoned debate, I'm interested to see why you are so against it Davidft. Rather than accusations of trolling and being stupid and mischievous, I would be interested on your views as to why it isn't a good idea? And remember, it is just an idea, it's unlikely to be successful, but if you don't try...............!
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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #68 on: Friday 02 July 10 19:21 BST (UK) »
I think it's a great idea, and will support it fully.

In the hope for reasoned debate, I'm interested to see why you are so against it Davidft. Rather than accusations of trolling and being stupid and mischievous, I would be interested on your views as to why it isn't a good idea? And remember, it is just an idea, it's unlikely to be successful, but if you don't try...............!

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The reason I am against it is this discussion has been had on this board before and it descended into farce. The reason I said Guy was trolling is because of what he has said on previous occasions and his selective editing of the facts relating to the subject. In launching this petition he is going against what he has previously said. You don't have to believe me you can read all his previous posts on this messageboard.

The question of the 100 year rule is central to the issue. Some believe there is such a rule, others not. And both sides are guilty of producing misleading quotes to back up their claims. I do believe in the maintenance of a 100 year cut off point, whilst others don't and we aren't ever likely to agree so I am not going to argue about it. Whilst i respect others having a different viewpoint on principal, i do not have any time for people distorting matters for their own agenda

In reality there is nothing on the 1921 census that can not be found from other sources. The problem is other sources may be time consuming and require some expense and effort. Unfortunately a lot of people are not prepared to do this and simply want to click a few buttons on their computer and get instant results
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #69 on: Friday 02 July 10 19:33 BST (UK) »
I am sure when the fire service, police and the like will love such an hair brained idea. The public want a policeman, ambulance and a fire appliance to arrive quickly, and have good health care. I wonder what they would think when they don't get it and hear that the  government has used public  money to set it all up

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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #70 on: Saturday 03 July 10 11:48 BST (UK) »
That is one of the good points of private enterprise the government (taxpayer) would not have to shell out a penny.
I know of a number of companies who would jump at the chance to digitise the census and make it available.

The terms of the contract could easily ensure the work was carried out in the UK (well Europe as it would be illegal to specify UK).

It is a win win situation hampered only by government will.

If we can believe our MPs they are ready to listen and what's more to act.
We have to give them something to listen too.
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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #71 on: Saturday 03 July 10 15:24 BST (UK) »
For purely selfish reasons I would love to see the 1921 available - it's unlikely I'll still be around if I have to wait until the official release date!!

Mentioned in previous posts there is so much information readily available of more modern era.  If the 1921 was released with similar restrictions as the 1901 surely this would be acceptable.  Was there a terrible "fall out" from the early rlease of the 1901 - can't remember.

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