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Offline Gartag

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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #54 on: Friday 02 July 10 09:47 BST (UK) »
Done that.  And got hooked into some others... what a site.

And Davidft, not seeing the posting you're refering to I can only guess you're doing a press angle, deliberatly using a phrasing to make something not what it seems.  I suggest you take a journalist job and leave genealogy to others more open minded.

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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #55 on: Friday 02 July 10 09:55 BST (UK) »
Quote from: davidft on Friday 02 July 10 09:12 BST (UK)

 ;D ;D ;D would you be the same Guy Etchells who rubbished petitions on the Number 10 website as doing more harm than good ? A tad hypocritical of you to now start a petition on a similar website

 That was completely different. This time the Government is asking for ideas to raise revenue. If it helps the family historian along the way, so much the better!

I can't see why you are so bitterly opposed to it.
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« Reply #56 on: Friday 02 July 10 09:58 BST (UK) »
Quote from: davidft on Friday 02 July 10 09:12 BST (UK)
;D ;D ;D  would you be the same Guy Etchells who rubbished petitions on the Number 10 website as doing more harm than good ? A tad hypocritical of you to now start a petition on a similar website

Why is it hypocritical? The value of a petition or suggestion depends on the recipient and their willingness to look at it. There was a change of government in May and the new government has asked for suggestions for reducing expenditure and increasing revenue.

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Norfolk - Alcock, Bowen, Bowers, Breeze, Burton, Creamer, Hammond, Sparkes, Wakefield, Wiggett
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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #57 on: Friday 02 July 10 10:19 BST (UK) »
Gartag, - The post was on this site so all you have to do is search Guys previous posts. Then you will not have to make erroneous guesses.

Oldtimer , - I beg to differ. Still it doesn’t really matter as i have looked at the site in question and some o the other posts on there and its quite clear, IMO, that it is fast becoming a joke

Nigelp, - it is hypocritical for the reasons originally given. As for suggestions for reducing expenditure and increasing revenue i think they are looking for something more credible that the dodgy manipulation of figures Guy used in his petition
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #58 on: Friday 02 July 10 10:45 BST (UK) »
Sorry David, I agree with Oldtimer, the government has asked for suggestions. Doesn't mean that it will act on it but at least it sounds like they are open to offers unlike the online petitions which were just binned with the last lot.

At least the costs involved in getting a census up and online would be freshly available (ref 1911) to them reducing the cost of a mamoth project to see the viability and cost involved.  Even then, the initial costs may be too great for the release to be considered at the present time. You never know, perhps Ancestry will outbid Bright Soldi this time round  ;D

Personally, I have nothing to gain from seeing it, unlike 1911 which filled a huge gap, but I'm sure there are many others out there whom it could be useful.

Now releasing military records 1920-1930!!! is another story :D
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« Reply #59 on: Friday 02 July 10 10:47 BST (UK) »
Quote from: davidft on Friday 02 July 10 10:19 BST (UK)
......................... it is hypocritical for the reasons originally given. As for suggestions for reducing expenditure and increasing revenue i think they are looking for something more credible that the dodgy manipulation of figures Guy used in his petition

The figure used by Guy comes from page 2 (paragraph 3) of Unlocking the Past: The 1901 Census Online published by the National Audit Office in November 2003 (see link below). What is dodgy about this income figure?  

http://www.nao.org.uk/publications/0203/the_1901_census_online.aspx

Can you provide the link to the reasons originally given?

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Essex - Burrell, Thorogood
Norfolk - Alcock, Bowen, Bowers, Breeze, Burton, Creamer, Hammond, Sparkes, Wakefield, Wiggett
North Devon - Burgess, Chalacombe, Collacott, Goss
Northamptonshire - George, Letts, Muscutt, Richardson
Somerset - Barber
Wiltshire - Brine, Burges, Carey, Gray, Lywood, Musselwhite, Perris, Read, Turner, Wilkins

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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #60 on: Friday 02 July 10 11:00 BST (UK) »
lol!

well at least this request is more serious than the other suggestions the government has received.
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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #61 on: Friday 02 July 10 11:07 BST (UK) »
Quote from: davidft on Friday 02 July 10 09:12 BST (UK)
would you be the same Guy Etchells who rubbished petitions on the Number 10 website as doing more harm than good ? A tad hypocritical of you to now start a petition on a similar website

It isn't a petition, and Guy has already recommended writing directly to MPs (post 27).
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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #62 on: Friday 02 July 10 12:03 BST (UK) »
still supportive; but concerned that the revenues quoted are gross of any partner's share and thus implementation costs need to be highlighted such that a true nett figure of government income is understood as part of the proposal.

Otherwise, it may well be read as more political than the intentions stated?
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