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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #99 on: Sunday 04 July 10 15:45 BST (UK) »
I think the best course of action (if the 100 yr rule does not count) is to transcribe the whole lot and if you were alive in 1921 and have an objection then you contact the census provider and ask it to be withdrawen until 2021. Then everybody is happy, it might be a bit inconvienient for the person to request their details be witheld but if they feel that stongly (as my gran would) then they would go to the effort.

I think far more importantly the census should not be palmed off to ancestry or bright solid to make money  out of it, it should either be free or run by the government, I am sure either would find volunteers to help transcribe it.
Flintshire Parry, Price, Lloyd, Jones, Williams, Roberts, Ellis, Holland and Davies. Mostly from Brynford area.
Denbighshire Hannam, Evans
Scotland Clark, Duff, Ferrier, Cruikshanks, Robertson, Anderson, Mciver, Finlayson, Hodge, Galloway and Barrie
Midlands Shaw, Davenport, Skidmore, Ball
Ireland Mccaffery

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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #100 on: Sunday 04 July 10 16:15 BST (UK) »
It may be of interest to some that the Advisory Council on Public Records and Archives (ACPRA) October 1998 statement about the closure of census records stated-

"The Council considered the appropriateness of the closure period of 100 years which applied to the decennial census of population. It concluded that since undertakings of confidentiality had been given in the past by successive governments to people making returns, any reduction in the closure period for censuses up to that taken in 1991 would be a breach of confidence. It also felt, however, that a shorter period, of 80 years for instance, might be appropriate for future censuses."

Now considering that the undertakings of confidentiality for 100 years only appeared on census schedules in 1981, 1991 and 2001 and that the undertakings on the 1981 and 1991 census were as admitted in parliament unauthorised.

This is shown by the letter the then Registrar General wrote to parliament (dated 14 March 2005) in which he stated-

"In an attempt to simplify the confidentiality message on the front of the 1981 and the 1991 Census forms, the assurances, as worded, stated that the Registrar General had authority himself to retain the records for 100 years. This pledge asserts authority that the Registrar General does not have."

We therefore have the situation where the census is being withheld against the recommendations of the ACPRA in an effort to save the embarrassment of parliament who supported legislation based on false assurances from the Registrar General who later informed parliament he was not authorised to give the assurances.
Perhaps those who oppose the census being released should consider who was actually deceived.
Was it our ancestors or is it the present population who have been misguided?
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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #101 on: Sunday 04 July 10 16:40 BST (UK) »
Hi,
You don't actually have a  right to know your family. The only rights you hold are your own being.
you do not own your family, neither do they own you .

forget stats - within those stats are living breathing people, they are more than just gov stats  . My husband's great uncle is 95 .

Perhaps you should ask the people who's lives it is if they don't mind it being released. G uncle is against it

I will not sign . There are far , far  more important things in this world to fight for. Living breathing humans

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P.s ask yourself why some people are hell bent on pushing for this. look at the $$$  they will be making from their own personal agenders/job ( don't be a sheep - look close)
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« Reply #102 on: Sunday 04 July 10 16:50 BST (UK) »

Kind regards:)

P.s ask yourself why some people are hell bent on pushing for this. look at the $$$  they will be making from their own personal agenders/job ( don't be a sheep - look close)

I for one have paid out a lot of cash to gain access to the 1911 census, the 1939 census and now the 1921 census.
It costs money to take legal advice.

Some of us do things because we believe in upholding the rights and freedoms our ancestors laid down their lives to protect.

Please do not think everyone does things for money.
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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #103 on: Sunday 04 July 10 17:02 BST (UK) »
" I for one have paid out a lot of cash to gain access to the 1911 census, the 1939 census and now the 1921 census.
It costs money to take legal advice". quote
so just because you have paid a lot of cash  it's ok? Your above statement is   putting monetry value over human rights

have you asked your ancestors if they would like you to access it?

Have you any living people today that were around in  1921 ?

If not, how many people who are in that census have you personally asked their views?


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Re: Access to the 1921 Census
« Reply #104 on: Sunday 04 July 10 18:52 BST (UK) »
This post is becoming rather argumentative and is now locked.  Those who wish to support the idea can see how to do so in the early postings.
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