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Lady Govia Glass
« on: Tuesday 29 June 10 13:34 BST (UK) »
Hi

I'm trying to find out about this woman with a connection to my husband's family.  The only mention we have is by word of mouth that she was very wealthy and that she was possibly the founder of a London Girls' Shelter in Whitechapel (listed on the 1901 Census).

It is an unusual name so hopefully this is useful.

Thanks very much.
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Re: Lady Govia Glass
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 14:00 BST (UK) »
Can we have the full 1901 details please as there does not appear to be any entry for that name? 
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Re: Lady Govia Glass
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 15:38 BST (UK) »
Hi


Jeff Kraggs 1901 census institutions webpage doesn't seem to bring up a

London Girls' Shelter in Whitechapel

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jeffery.knaggs/Instuts.html

though there was a Salvation Army women's shelter in Whitechapel


The civil registration (FreeBMD) doesn't show anyone with the name Govia. It does have a Golda Glass which seems the nearest.


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Re: Lady Govia Glass
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 16:18 BST (UK) »
The only "Lady Glass" I can find listed as such is Anne Tanner the wife of Sir Richard Atwood Glass. She seems to have lived for many years at Warbrook House in Hampshire after the death of her husband in 1873.  (There was another Richard Atwood Glass who is probably their nephew).

I would think we'd need to know the street address of the "London Girl's Shelter" listed in 1901.  You can look at, for example, http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/findbykeyword.asp by street and then search for more about the history of the place.
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Re: Lady Govia Glass
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 16:35 BST (UK) »
that Golda Glass was born in Whitechapel 1873, if it is she, her father was Polish and more than likely to be Jewish. he was a tailor. Abraham Glass, mother was Sarah , also born Poland.
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 16:36 BST (UK) »
ps they lived at 20 Shepherd St.Tower Hamlets.
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Re: Lady Govia Glass
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 17:03 BST (UK) »
Golda Glass died in Wandsworth 1943 aged 75

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Re: Lady Govia Glass
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 30 June 10 15:51 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

I don't see anything concrete here to go on.

I think we need the 1901 entry/ies for the "London Girl's Refuge" or is it just a London girls' refuge?

However, the Crispin Street Refuge (aka Jack Ripper's 5th victim Mary Kelly) and its overflow sites are "Whitechapel".
It was once apparently very fashionable for the good and godly to donate money to this establishment. This may form part of the wealthy lady's story.

I would like to see the document detailing the lady's name "Govia" or any concrete dates/info. How do we know the lady actually existed?

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Re: Lady Govia Glass
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 30 June 10 17:45 BST (UK) »
Hi

The Crispin Street Refuge known as the Providence Refuge (because it was formerly in Providence Row in Finsbury) in Spitalfields was run by the Sisters of Mercy - a Catholic order. The founder of the refuge was the Rev Daniel Gilbert  the Catholic Bishop of London.

http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/cities/london/walks-and-tours/social-provision-in-east-london/decline.html?type=0

I'm not sure about 'its overflow sites are Whitechapel' ? None of the other places connected to this refuge seem to be in Whitechapel though Whitechapel was an adjacent area.

Crispin Street, Gun Street and Artillery Lane are still named as such and appear to be in Spitalfields.
Providence Row Finsbury is now Worship Street Finsbury.

Not sure of the evidence for this statement

'It was once apparently very fashionable for the good and godly to donate money to this establishment. '


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Valda

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