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Re: JustKia's Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In
« Reply #54 on: Thursday 01 July 10 17:56 BST (UK) »
I think that one baptism entry is going to be as good as it gets.
Before 1837 it is always going to be difficult to come up with 100% proof, but like I said before how many Samuel Wimbush butchers were there?
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« Reply #55 on: Thursday 01 July 10 21:15 BST (UK) »
As far as I know there were 2, Samuel that we are looking for and his son.
If this isn't the same chap then there are two Samuel Wimbushs both born around 1800, both having worked as a butcher at some time...
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« Reply #56 on: Thursday 01 July 10 21:50 BST (UK) »

And the interesting news - baptism of Isaac 1824 in Marton - Samuel's occ - BUTCHER!!!





I just liked the thought of a Wimbush and a Knight being together ...I was thinkinking/hoping/wishing that James Knight introduced Betty to the Wimbush family ;D ;D ;D


Love your finding for Isaac ...perhaps James knight did introduce Betty into the family

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« Reply #57 on: Friday 02 July 10 05:40 BST (UK) »
JustKia is this you?

http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.wimbush/42.1/mb.ashx

and this?

http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.wimbush/42/mb.ashx

That's actually me  :D. That's how I learned a little about the descendants of Samuel, son of the Samuel who is the quarry of this hunt. I descend from Betty, daughter of Samuel.

Welcome to the Scavenger Hunts misuaorang, hopefully you'll get some more information re your Wimbush people.... and you might have some information for JustKia.    ;D

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« Reply #58 on: Friday 02 July 10 12:07 BST (UK) »
From Just Kia's (reply 2)

3. Another "alien"! I hadn't realised or made any hint of a connection here until right this minute. I don't have any baptism or census entries or even a death, but I do have 2 marriages and 4 children.
m. 22 Jan 1824 to France Watts in Leamington Hastings (2 children Isaac 1824 and Mary 1826) then m. 24 Oct 1827 to Mary Wes(t)ley (2 children Sophia 1828 and John 1830). Burial for Mary 11 Sep 1831 Wappenbury, no death found for Frances.
In 1841 Isaac is a farm servant in Leamington Hastings, Mary - not found, Sophia is in Eathorpe with an elderly Parker couple, John also in Eathorpe (next door) with the Heritage family at the Plough Inn. No sign of their father Samuel. No deaths for a Samuel until 1854 in Barnet (father of Samuel 1 in this post) and 1859 Manchester (the Samuel we are looking for in Manchester/Wolverhampton).
It's less than 5 miles from Wappenbury to Leamington Hastings via Eathorpe and Marton.

There is a marriage for Sophia Wimbush -  Dec 1849 Qtr Warwick Reg Dist - 16-911 - Groom is John Daniel. They are still together on the 1881 census as Daniels.
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« Reply #59 on: Friday 02 July 10 12:28 BST (UK) »
Kanskar I notice in 1861 John and Sophia are living next door to the pub in Eathorpe and John Daniel(s) was a shoemaker with Sophia being a shoe binder. The father of Byfield Samuel was also a shoemaker, keeping the trade in the family?
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« Reply #60 on: Friday 02 July 10 22:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the marriage there, Kanskar
Big Thank You to jaywit, deb usa, toni*, kanskar, alpinecottage, Sue and Sandy, and of course to anyone who took the time to look even if you didn't post here.

Just to tie up Samuel's lose ends and rule out bigamy has anyone seen a death for wife 1 - Frances? Samuel married her 22 Jan 1824 with the 2nd child born mid 1826 and then the marriage to wife 2 - Mary was 24 Oct 1827, so hopefully there's a death/burial for Frances between 1826-1827. The icing on the cake would be a marriage to Betty, but I'm pretty sure there isn't one - maybe Samuel felt that marrying was some sort of jinx with his two earlier wives having died shortly afterwards? I presume that if he was free to marry wife 2, and wife 2 died he would have been free to marry again.
WIMBUSH - Everywhere :: MARLOW/JECOCK/JUSTICE - Northamptonshire/Warwickshire/Oxfordshire :: SCALES/BRIDGES/ENGLISH/SPINK/PETCH/GOOCH/COCKSEDGE - Suffolk :: GARRETT/GIBBS/FEARN - Warwickshire :: DEVOS - Scotland (Aberdeen)/France(Dunkerque) :: MURRAY - Ireland(Down)/Scotland(Lochs) :: TIGHE/TREACY - Cork

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« Reply #61 on: Friday 02 July 10 22:36 BST (UK) »
do you have the bp. for the child born 1826? just wondering if 2nd wife died in childbirth it might be worth looking at PR's
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« Reply #62 on: Friday 02 July 10 22:42 BST (UK) »
Just a thought ...with Sophia being the daughter of Samuel the Shoemaker, maybe there were 2 Samuels

Samuel the butcher who may have had Isaac (s/o Samuel the butcher) and Mary by Frances Watts and then "married" Betty Knight and had children.

Then Samuel the shoemaker who married Mary Wesley and had Sophia and John.


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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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