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[jaywit]

Looking back at the earlier posts the 2 children of the Samuel/Mary marriage were Sophia and John.
 Byfield Samuel's parents were Sophia and John, not proof I know but it all stacks up. It is just finding out what Byfield Samuel's occupation was. If it was a butcher then in view of everything else stacking up I think it was him in Manchester

[jamajo]

Hi All,

        Not sure if these will help at all from Oxfordshire Marriage Index.....

24 Nov 1814 Benjamin Wimbush to Anne Neal at Croperdy
18 Nov 1822 John Wimbush to Hannah Priest at Croperdy
20 Oct 1717 Samuel Wimbush to Mary Wady at Claydon
27 Sep 1803 Thomas Wimbush to Ann Adams at Croperdy
14 Dec 1813 Thomas Wimbush, LT Boulton to Sarah Kimberley, Coventry at Croperdy

If these help at all and you want the female marriages from here just say

  Sue

[seahall]

Sorry Jaywit.

I have just posted same information on the Northants Thread.

Apologies.

Sandy

[Just Kia]

Sandy - don't be sorry, that was my fault for not realising I could click the numbers next to the results on FreeReg to get more info, I'm the one who should be (and I am) apologising.

Sue - I'd definitely appreciate the female marriages if you don't mind. Cheeky I know as they may not fit this hunt but I'm pretty convinced that all Wimbushs/Winbushs are related at some distant ancestor (probably in Lincolnshire eventually).
The Thomas that married Ann Adams is the same Thomas later marrying Sarah Sammons (who was previously married to Joseph Kimberley). Oh what a tangled web these people weave!

Deb - The marriage of John to Hannah Bottomley was 13 Oct 1845 in St George, Manchester.
John died 1852 Q4 Manchester and Hannah d1863 Q1 Manchester. Hannah remarried 14 Aug 1854 Manchester to John Dyson. I'm not sure what happened there because by 1861 she is living as Hannah Wimbush - widow.
John Wimbush's first wife, Elizabeth, d1842 Q4 Manchester.

I have the birth cert of Samuel (son of Samuel and Betty) b5 Apr 1844 Manchester. Father's occupation is "Pork Butcher" on there.

The pre-1837 marriage entries I have so far don't give a groom's occupation. I'll try and get to Warwick RO tomorrow and see if by chance there is anything on the marriages of Samuel to Frances Watts and Mary Wes(t)ley.

[jaywit]

It's often the baptisms, if you are lucky, that give the fathers occupation.
 It all depends on the vicar, some put occupations in some didn't.
So if you can look at the baptisms for the children of both marriages you may, fingers crossed be lucky.

[Just Kia]

It's often the baptisms, if you are lucky, that give the fathers occupation.

D'oh - that's a sensible idea, I should have thought of that.
So, my mission tomorrow is to find the baptisms of Isaac, Mary, Sophia and John in Marton and cross fingers that the person filling in the register noted the father's occupation.

[jaywit]

It's often the baptisms, if you are lucky, that give the fathers occupation.

D'oh - that's a sensible idea, I should have thought of that.
So, my mission tomorrow is to find the baptisms of Isaac, Mary, Sophia and John in Marton and cross fingers that the person filling in the register noted the father's occupation.

Yes Thats what you want.

[jamajo]

Here are those marriages from Oxfordshire Marriage Index....

13 Oct 1807 Ann Wimbush to William Elkington at Croperdy
22 Apr 1731 Elizabeth Wimbush, Claydon to John Padbury at Banbury
26 Jun 1797 Hannah Wimbush, GT Bourton to Thomas Robins, GT Bourton at Croperdy
26 Mar 1812 Hester Wimbush, Bourton to William Hopkins, Adderbury at Croperdy
13 Dec 1797 Mary Wimbush to James Clark, Bodicote at Banbury

   Sue

[Just Kia]

Just a wee thought on family names going on here.

Frances Watts was the daughter of Isaac and Sarah. The children of Samuel and Frances were Isaac - after his maternal grandfather and Mary - potentially Samuel's paternal grandmother is Mary (John W who married Sophia was son of John W and Mary Bonham). Jaywit asked "So if Sophia died in 1801 when Samuel was just a toddler and John didn't remarry until 1805 I wonder if Samuel went to his mother's family, or to the Warwickshire Wimbush branch?" - Maybe he went to his paternal grandmother?

Isaac then passed the name onto two of his sons (one died in infancy).
First son George - ?
2nd son Sam (not Samuel) - presumably after Isaac's father
3rd son Isaac - after his father and maternal grandfather
4th son John - after his paternal grandfather? (John W and Sophia Short)
5th son Isaac - the first Isaac had died
6th son William - ?
7th son Ernest Fred - ?
1st daughter - Fanny - after Frances
2nd dughter Ann - ?
3rd daughter Emma Sophia - after Isaac's mother and half-sister?
4th daughter Susan Agnes - ?

Mary Wes(t)ley  was the daughter of John and Elizabeth. the children of Samuel and Mary were Sophia (paternal grandmother) and John (paternal and maternal grandfathers), as jaywit mentioned.

OK this then gets a bit complicated...
Isaac, son of Isaac and Mary, married Mary Ann Whitehead. Her parents were Emmanuel Whitehead and Ann Facer. Emmanuel was the illegitimate child of Amy Prestage/Prestidge. His baptism was as Emmanuel Whitehead Prestage but he dropped the Prestage at some point before 1818 when he married Ann. (There was an Emanuel Whitehead in the area and I suspect he was the father, if not it's an unusual choice of names.)
Amy's sister, Charlotte, married Thomas Wimbush of Upper Boddington.
In other words Emmanuel was cousins with a number of Wimbushs.
I suspect that the Upper Boddington branch connects with the Byfield branch within a few generations. I think they were probably quite aware of all the other branches and it seems many of them moved around quite a bit.

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Sue - Many thanks for the marriages =)