Drummaul Parish Register - Walker

[glenmornan]

Hi,

Presbyterian marriage look up please for a Thomas Walker and a Martha Richmond, about 1825

Also birth if possible for Charles Walker, about 1827.

Many thanks,

Glenmornan

[aghadowey]

Here's a list of Presbyterian Church records available at PRONI- there's no Drummaul Presbterian Church listed (also not in History of Congregations which lists all Presbyterian churches in Ireland)- would it have another name?
http://www.presbyterianireland.org/about/records.html#d

There is, however, a Drummaul Parish Church (Church of Ireland), Randalstown- could this be the one? (records supposed to start 1823)
http://www.proni.gov.uk/church_of_ireland_index.pdf

Previous thread:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,463176.msg3238806.html#msg3238806

[glenmornan]

Hi,

Sorry. I saw the Drummaul parish records referred to elsewhere and assumed they would be Presbyterian. There appear to be three Presbyterian churches in Randalstown, and I reckon those would be the closest. The Walker and Richmond families in Drummaul at the 1901 and 1911 Censuses are confirmed as Presbyterian. They rented land from Reverend William O'Neill, and that leads me to belive I have eventually found the correct Parish, The Townland appears to have been Cloghogue.

Chhers

[aghadowey]

Parish churches are R.C. or Church of Ireland.

The Presbyterian link I gave lists the 3 Randalstown churches and when their records start- unfortunately all well after 1820s.
First        baptisms 1837, marriages 1845
Second    baptisms 1850, marriages 1845, Session minutes 1850
Old         baptisms 1853, marriages 1845

[glenmornan]

Hello again,

Thanks for your time and the valuable information. There are three other parishes that I might consider, but I was sure I had the correct one this time. They are Carrickfergus, Kilraghts, and Kirkinriola, but I appreciate that may well be toutwith the scope of a single post.

Thanks again

 

[aghadowey]

Thesse places aren't really near each other. Do you have any idea where these people lived at any stage?

[glenmornan]

Hi,
The short answer to your question is no I don't. I know that two brothers named Henry and Richard Richmond came over to Scotland with my great great grandfather, Charles Walker, and his younger brother John. All I know for certain is that they were born in County Antrim.
The Irish Times tells me that there are 9 parishes in County Antrim where the surnames Walker and Richmond co-existed at the time of Griffiths Valuation. The Richmond boys' father was John Richmond and their mother was Jane Henderson. That narrows it down to Drummaul, Carrickfergus, Kilraghts, and Kirkinriola. That is all I have to go on. The Richmonds had a stronghold in the Rasharkin area and there are Walkers and Richmonds in nearby Craigs Parish. However, there are no Hendersons to be found there.

I had almost given up until the 1901 census came online and I discovered a family of Richmonds in Drummaul with the same first names of the two who came over to Scotland. The name Richard Richmond does not appear to be very common. A coincidence, perhaps, but they shared a common landlord with Walker families and there were also Hendersons in Drummaul.

It might be time to let it rest but it would be nice if I could find out more about them.

[glenmornan]

I should have said that I didn't know where they lived in Ireland. I know all the history since the 1851 Scottish Census. There was no Presbyterian church in Bargeddie where they worked as coalminers. We were members of the United Free Church whose "ministers" were lay people and unable to perform cilvil duties. The area was mostly R.C. and we never attended church much at all like most other protestants in the area. My mothers family were R.C. from Strabane area, and I have all their details. The Richmonds were cousins of my great-great grandfather. All births, civil marriages, and deaths tended to be dealt with in Glasgow with no local records available. They worked for a company named United Collieries wwhich never held any records at all of their employees.

[glenmornan]

After double checking my browsing history of Scotlands People, I have found them on Irish Family History Website. They lived in Broughshane and Crebilly area, near Ballymena.

Marriage in November 1851 at Broughshane 1st Presbyterian church between William John Richmond (Broughshane) and Ann Jean Chambers (Crebilly). William was my great-great grandfather's cousin.

No Presbyterian records available for Ballymena 1st on microfilm so a real lucky break.

Thanks again