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Complete: Kea Parish records - TRESADDERN or ...
« on: Monday 28 June 10 02:32 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find information on an Elizabeth Tressadern, presumed to be born in Kea around 1748.  She married a James Holman in Kea on 31 Aug 1769.  Their first son was John Tresoderan Holman.  Has anyone heard of this last name or something similar in the Kea area?
BATH - Stithians, Cornwall; HOLMAN, Gwennap, Cornwall; KNOWLES - Cornwall, Devon; REED - Cornwall; CLEGG - Oldham, Lancashire; OGDEN - Oldham, Lancashire; JAMES - Suffolk; REID/REED/READ - Hadleigh, Suffolk; SANDS - Stratford St Mary, Suffolk; TUCKER - Gravesend, Kent;

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Re: Kea Parish records - TRESADDERN or ...
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 June 10 03:45 BST (UK) »
Hi dbath,

Apparently Elizabeth signed TREZADERN

on the same day Thomasin TRESADDERN = Martin MAGOR (she also signed TREZADERN

15 May 1731 in Kenwyn Mr John HODGE = Thomasin TRESADREN

certainly more with similar names about Cornwall but these are the only marriages I am spotting in Kea and Kenwyn. Things like TRESIDDER could possibly even be considered.

Cheers Kris  :)
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Re: Kea Parish records - TRESADDERN or ...
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 June 10 03:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Kris.  I know there have to be multiple spellings since her son's middle name has to be linked to her maiden name.   BTW, where did you find her signature and is there a way I can get a copy of it?
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BATH - Stithians, Cornwall; HOLMAN, Gwennap, Cornwall; KNOWLES - Cornwall, Devon; REED - Cornwall; CLEGG - Oldham, Lancashire; OGDEN - Oldham, Lancashire; JAMES - Suffolk; REID/REED/READ - Hadleigh, Suffolk; SANDS - Stratford St Mary, Suffolk; TUCKER - Gravesend, Kent;

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Re: Kea Parish records - TRESADDERN or ...
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 June 10 04:07 BST (UK) »
Now this marriage may be of interest.

There is a John TRESADERN of Key = Elizabeth dau of Thomas HODGE 3 July 1731 Cubert

Key interesting, especially as I have now found

Thomasin TRESANDREN/TRESOUDRIN baptised 13 Nov 1736 Kenwyn father John

No luck with a possible baptism for Elizabeth.

may mean nothing of course as if this was Thomasin she was 33 in 1769 - but does seem to warrent further investigation.

Cheers Kris  :)

You can order copies of parish records from the CRO

http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=14710

Cheers Kris  :)
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Re: Kea Parish records - TRESADDERN or ...
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 June 10 04:55 BST (UK) »
Thank you.  I lost control of the computer for a little bit, but found the Thomasine baptism right before I got off.  That name is so unusual it at least has to be related (I think)!  I also saw a John Tresandren and John Tresaudren in Kenwyn, so I will keep looking.
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BATH - Stithians, Cornwall; HOLMAN, Gwennap, Cornwall; KNOWLES - Cornwall, Devon; REED - Cornwall; CLEGG - Oldham, Lancashire; OGDEN - Oldham, Lancashire; JAMES - Suffolk; REID/REED/READ - Hadleigh, Suffolk; SANDS - Stratford St Mary, Suffolk; TUCKER - Gravesend, Kent;

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Re: Kea Parish records - TRESADDERN or ...
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 June 10 05:01 BST (UK) »
On the map, it shows Kenwyn and Kea to be only 3.4 miles apart, so this makes the connection even more likely.
BATH - Stithians, Cornwall; HOLMAN, Gwennap, Cornwall; KNOWLES - Cornwall, Devon; REED - Cornwall; CLEGG - Oldham, Lancashire; OGDEN - Oldham, Lancashire; JAMES - Suffolk; REID/REED/READ - Hadleigh, Suffolk; SANDS - Stratford St Mary, Suffolk; TUCKER - Gravesend, Kent;

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Re: Kea Parish records - TRESADDERN or ...
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 June 10 05:51 BST (UK) »
I joined FindMyPast today and found Elizabeth, daughter of Nicolas and Elizabeth Tresaddern, baptized 13 Aug 1751 in Perranarworthal.  Since they are so close, I think this is the same person.  Although I took notes on Elizabeth before I realized I needed to document where I got my information, I believe the Kea location came from the marriage record, which is the only document I had about her.  Like you, however, I am still very intrigued by the Thomasin.  With the similar last name and location, I am pretty certain they must be related, especially when they chose to share a wedding date.  Also, a Nicolas Tersadren was baptized on 29 Oct 1727 to John!  Thank you for your help.  This will definitely be something to work on.
David
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Re: Complete: Kea Parish records - TRESADDERN or ...
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 July 10 23:40 BST (UK) »
I am a descendent of John Tresadern brother to the above Elizabeth Tresadern Ch. 13 August 1751 Perranaworthal. Their parents were Nicholas Tresadern  29 Oct 1727 Illogan Cornwall, and an Elizabeth ?. It is thought that the father of Nicholas may  possibly have been one John Tersadren Ch. 19 Jan 1704 in Reduth Cornwall, and that in turn his father may have been one Georg(e) Tresodran, m to Thamson ?.
Not much help to the original enquiry I'm afraid, but I do have a copy of the Will of Nicholas Tresadern dated 1759 from the Public Records Office leaving his estate to his wife Elizabeth, and his son John, and mine and my brother's transcription of the will. It seems that Nicholas was a moderately literate man and quite well off. I would be interested to know what Nicholas' wife Elizabeth's given name might have been.  Illogan in Cornwall is nearer the N coast, and Perranaworthal is near the S coast, but at the narrowest point of the county, so they are only about 5 to 6 miles apart. Kea is about a quarter to a third of the way between the two, being nearest to Perranaworthal. Geoff

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 July 10 00:26 BST (UK) »
Good to "meet" you, Geoff.  I was looking in the Cornwall On-line Parish Clerks website and found that Elizabeth and John were baptized the same day.  I wonder if they were twins or if their parents just waited to baptize one of them.  While on the above site, I found a marriage between Nicholas Tresadan and Elizabeth Grose on 23 Jun 1751 in Stithians (Stythians).  I believe this would be our family.

Elizabeth, the sister, married James Holman on August 31, 1769 in Kea.  It would make sense that the Tresadderns were fairly wealthy as the Holmans were landowners and miners in the area.

To add to the information, according to Familysearch, John Tresadren married Mary ?? on July 6, 1726 in Illogan.  I don't know if you have the ability to check that out, but it makes sense that it would be our John.
David
BATH - Stithians, Cornwall; HOLMAN, Gwennap, Cornwall; KNOWLES - Cornwall, Devon; REED - Cornwall; CLEGG - Oldham, Lancashire; OGDEN - Oldham, Lancashire; JAMES - Suffolk; REID/REED/READ - Hadleigh, Suffolk; SANDS - Stratford St Mary, Suffolk; TUCKER - Gravesend, Kent;