** COMPLETED ** LLANSAMLET Parish Lookup please - Langdon and William

[armek1]

But there again...

I've stumbled over some Llansamlet burials which stir the  pot again:

- William LANGDON, buried 23 July 1855 aged 61, address Cnap Goch. The age tallies well with the information that we already have for your William. This burial also agrees with the fact that, in censuses, William was alive in 1851 but dead in 1861.

- Rachel LANGDON, buried 03 July 1869 aged 62, address Foxhole (which agrees with her last-known address in 1861). But if that age is correct, then Rachel was born around 1806/7! But her age in the 1861 census was given as 64, meaning that the death age should have been about 72 if the census age is correct; I have no reason to believe that the 1861 census age is wrong because it agrees with the two earlier censuses. The death age of this Rachel is given as 61 in FreeBMD and the GRO index. I suggest that you treat this Rachel as a 'maybe' on the grounds that the information from the original informant was inaccurate - or that this could be rogue Rachel having nothing, at this stage, to do with your LANGDON family.

Isn't this fun?  
Lee.

[lyndahirst_1]

Fun indeed.... oh Joy ... lollll.....      

I'll have to see if I can find anything that will help me wade through the murky waters....   Most appreciative of your suggestions and assistance on this one .. I'm a newbie at this and had thought I was managing reasonably well until now.. lolllll 

Grist for the mill indeed Lee!

[lyndahirst_1]

and just picked up on your Humphrey sighting!  how exciting!  the hunt is on!!

Does the marriage record give any information such as ages or addresses/witnesses Lee?

[armek1]

Hi Lynda,

I'm not much more than a newbie at this myself but, because I'm limited in being able to travel and, therefore, to haunt local record offices, I spend most of my days at my computer or reading books which my local library borrow for me from other libraries across England and Wales. So any information I gather is very much 'bookish' and not hands-on; I've never handled, or even seen, a parish record.

I've also received tremendous help from people on this site.

So any information that I post may be part of your jig-saw puzzle but, equally, it could seem to fit but it actually belongs to a different puzzle.

Back to the LANGDON family. I've got more burials which will probably interest you; I'm just trying to sort out in my own mind who belongs to who before I post them.

On Humphrey - I've got nothing further to add to the initial post. If he is actually a LANGDON you might have to explore outside Glamorgan to find any more. From census information, the LANGDON name seems to be concentrated in the West Country - especially Somerset.

I'll post again later today.
Lee.

[lyndahirst_1]

Hi Lee

no pressure or rush but wondering if you'd had the chance of sorting through the details of the burials you thought might fit?

cheers
Lynda

[armek1]

Hi Lynda,

I do apologise - I've got the most undisciplined mind in the world; I get side-tracked very easily when I run across a name or place that I think is familiar. It sometimes leads to a remote family connection or, more often, spends weeks following a paper trail to nowhere. I thoroughly enjoy the journey but am mostly disappointed with the results. I also tend to forget that other people don't have all day and every day to meander around their family research. So, if I say that I'm going to post back and it looks as if I've forgotten then, please, give me a (figurative) nudge to remind me! 

Back to the burials:

David LANGDON, of Pentrechwyth, buried at Llansamlet 27 Feb 1886; age 60. The age and place tie in with this being the son of William and Rachel.
 
According to FreeBMD, David LANGDON married Ann DANIEL 4Q 1858 Neath 11a 644. I had a choice of Ann DANIEL or Catherine DAVIES; I finally picked Ann because an Ann LANGDON, of Foxhole, was buried in Llansamlet 04 Dec 1869; age 43. This seems to tally - right area and age and the 1871 census shows David to be a widower. There is no death registered for a Catherine LANGDON in the right time-frame.

The death of a Rachel LANGDON was registered (FreeBMD again) 3Q 1871 Neath 11a 301; age 12. There was a daughter, 12 year-old Rachel LANGDON, living with widower David in the 1871 census. This also tallies with a burial on 27 Aug 1871 of a Rachel LANGDON, of Pentrechwyth,  at Llansamlet; the age in the burial index is, however, given as 13M. There appears to be no Rachel LANGDON birth listed anywhere in England & Wales in 1870.

.... and there's more to come!

Regards,
Lee.

[lyndahirst_1]

lolll....  I completely understand Lee -- I'm starting to work through my tree to cull out some of the way more distant links I had originally connected as now that I am further along with my discoveries, I can safely remove them.

I ranged far and wide initially as I wasn't sure what link-up could lead to a breakthrough elsewhere and indeed, some trails were way more interesting than my actual branch!

I appreciate your 'ranging' on my behalf -- run wild and free! lolll :-)

I'll pop this into place and see what the mix looks like...

cheers
Lynda

 

[armek1]

Hi Lynda,

I've sent you a Private Message to inquire about your access to information.

Regards,
Lee.

[hanes teulu]

Lynda,

Checked briefly yesterday for the baptisms of William and Rachel's children (1822 - 1838). Thought they might have been under St Johns juxta Swansea (once linked with Llansamlet) - no joy. Checked several other parish records for the area - again no joy. Will try and complete full search this week.

Found William and Rachel's marriage register record for April 1821 - can copy/scan/forward if required.

regards