1901 Lookup - VALLIS

[HiFly]

From the 1911 I got the following data on a Vallis family which are not to far away from where most of my lot come from - so they may be related - I looked through all my research files and I just cant tie any other info with of them up 

Census 1911 Mill Lane Castle Cary Somersetshire, all born Castle Cary
 
VALLIS, Eliza Head Widow 48
Emily Daughter Single 23
Percie Son Single 20
Elsie Daughter Single 18
William Son Single 16
Walter Son  10
Bertie Son  7
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I looked through the FreeBMD database and although there are some that could be "possibles" they are often in a different county!!

For example for Bertie the only nearest one I could find is:
Birth BMD Q4 1907 Vallis  Bertie James     Amesbury  5a 155
or for Walter: Q2 1902   Vallas  Walter     Camberwell  1d 926
and for Percy Q4 1888  VALLIS  Percy     Warminster  5a 138

I'd appreciate it if SKS could see if they can find this family group on the 1901 - or give me a sanity check please!!!

 
TIA - HiFly

[danuslave]

Well that was fun    The 1901 index wasn't giving me anything so I've just trawled through all the images for Castle Cary - it's a good job it wasn't a big place.

Unfortunately I couldn't find this family (or any other Vallis family) 

I can't find Eliza and her family in Shepton Montague (just up the road) either, although there are other Vallis families there.

Linda

[HiFly]

Thanks for trying danuslave. 

[allibaker]

i have to agree with linda and to make it worse i cant find this amily in 1891 either 
very strange
regards
alli

[charlotteCH]

Hi ... What may be a point of interest to you, there is a Vallis Way in Frome, Som.

The non-conformist cemetery is on Vallis Way.

charlotte

[Liz in France]

Hi HiFly,

Found them ,  It was the occupations that clinched it.

1891  RG12 piece 1901 Folio 99 page 12  Charles & Eliza Hiscox
1901 RG13  piece 2303 Folio 93 page 10  Charles & Eliza Hiscocks

Children
Emma (not Emily as 1911)
Albert Percy
William
Walter

Charles Hiscox married Eliza Martin 4/1883 reg Wincanton
Charles Hiscox died 1/903 aged 39 Wincanton (reg.dist. for Castle Cary)

I cannot find immediately the connection between Eliza, her family and the name Vallis but feel sure it is there somewhere.  I will keep looking.

Elizabeth

[Liz in France]

Hi,

To follow on:

1901 Elsie is with her grandparents John and Eliza Martin in Castle Cary.

Can't find the Vallis connection but found this marriage.

Emma Vallis to Albert Martin 2/1863 reg. Wincanton.
Both first names are used for Charles and Eliza's children but can't make the connection.

I hope this helps to identify your family and allows you to move on.

Best wishes,
Elizabeth

[HiFly]

How Intriguing this is Liz!

Am I correct in my understanding that what your are reporting is the family I asked about are not named Vallis but actually Hiscox/Hiscock??

If so I have done some digging and have found that there is a reference to a Harry/Henry and his brother Charles Vallis b1862/1863 respectively whose mother is reported as a Martha Hiscox by a contemparary descendant (not verified).

With help from Forumites here is Harry/Henry at various times
1881 - Residence Higher Shepton, Shepton Montague, Somerset - with Charles
1891 - listed as FELIS - Residence Penmark, Glamorganshire
1901 - Residence Gilfach, Glamorganshire
1911 - Residence 6 John St, Bargoed, Glamorganshire

One of Harry's grandchildren is reported to have commented that before the brothers moved from Somerset to Wales their name was Hiscox!!

This would appear to be borne out by the 1871 entry of a Charles & Henry Hiscock - Residence Lower Shepton, Shepton Montague, Somerset

I also found a baptism of a Charles Vallis - 14-May-1874 Shepton Montague, Somerset
 - parents reported as James Vallis & Martha Hiscock!

However I suspect that this is actually an adoption - as I noted that in the 1861 for a James & Louisa Vallis they have a Martha Hiscox, visitor, occupation servant also a Sarah Hiscox age 2. The name Hiscox is transcribed as Hixon.
in 1871 this same household in Lower Shepton, Shepton Montague, Somerset
is composed of:

James Vallis, age 54, Ag Lab b. Shepton Montague
Louisa Vallis, wife, age 56 b. Bruton, Somerset
Harry Hiscox, visitor, age 9 b. Shepton Montague
Charles Hiscox, visitor, age 7 b. Newport, Wales



HiFly

[Liz in France]

Hi,

It certainly does seem to  be more involved than at first thought.  I have a busy morning but will come back to it later in the day when it is too hot to work.

See you later.
Elizabeth