THORBY/THARBY in Herts?

[sofietca]

Hello,
I am researching a William Thorby, 1772-1850, and am a bit stuck. I can not find his birth, marriage, or the birth of his daughter Hannah.

I have him as a gamekeeper at Bramfield Bury in Hertfordshire in 1839, 1841, and 1847. He died in 1850 in Stapleford. According to the 1841 (Bramfield) census he was born about 1779 and not in Hertfordshire (His burial record places his birth at about 1772). His wife Elizabeth was born about 1768-1779 and the 1841 census records her birthplace as either Ireland or Foreign (though I think it's an I for Ireland). His daughter Hannah was born about 1814 - the 1841 census has her birthplace as not in Hertfordshire, and the 1851 census lists it as what looks like Malta. I'm not sure if Elizabeth was Hannah's mother since one of her conflicting birth dates makes her a bit old, but the other is reasonable.

The family lived in Bramfield from at least 1839 (when Hannah married a James Pratt) until their deaths (1842 Elizabeth, 1850 William, 1851 Hannah Thorby Pratt Tillcock). I haven't found any other Thorbys living in Bramfield, I don't know where mine came from, and I don't know for sure that it wasn't spelled THARBY as I find both spellings.

Does anyone recognize a connection to this family or have any advice on how to find more about them? I wish William and Elizabeth had made it to the 1851 census so I'd at least have one more year's worth of info about them!

Thank you,
Sarah

[supermoussi]

If he spent time in Malta it is quite likely that he was in the army/navy. Soldiers often took their wives/families on long assignments and there are special army overseas BMD records that you should probably check out.

[Franksfan]

Hello,
I am researching a William Thorby, 1772-1850, and am a bit stuck. I can not find his birth, marriage, or the birth of his daughter Hannah.

I have him as a gamekeeper at Bramfield Bury in Hertfordshire in 1839, 1841, and 1847. He died in 1850 in Stapleford. According to the 1841 (Bramfield) census he was born about 1779 and not in Hertfordshire (His burial record places his birth at about 1772). His wife Elizabeth was born about 1768-1779 and the 1841 census records her birthplace as either Ireland or Foreign (though I think it's an I for Ireland). His daughter Hannah was born about 1814 - the 1841 census has her birthplace as not in Hertfordshire, and the 1851 census lists it as what looks like Malta. I'm not sure if Elizabeth was Hannah's mother since one of her conflicting birth dates makes her a bit old, but the other is reasonable.

The family lived in Bramfield from at least 1839 (when Hannah married a James Pratt) until their deaths (1842 Elizabeth, 1850 William, 1851 Hannah Thorby Pratt Tillcock). I haven't found any other Thorbys living in Bramfield, I don't know where mine came from, and I don't know for sure that it wasn't spelled THARBY as I find both spellings.

Does anyone recognize a connection to this family or have any advice on how to find more about them? I wish William and Elizabeth had made it to the 1851 census so I'd at least have one more year's worth of info about them!

Thank you,
Sarah

Hi

I read your message about Hannah Thorby 1814-1851 born in Malta posted a year ago.  The only details I have on Hannah are as follows:  As you said she first married James Pratt b.1811-1845 and between 1840 and 1845 they had 3 children.  All 3 children died along with their father.  Hannah then married Thomas Tillcock b)1816 on the 11th May 1847 in Bramford, Hertford, they had 2 children Eliza and Louise.

Hannah died in 1851 in Bramfield, Hertford and as daughter Eliza was born in that year, it is assumed that Hannah died either giving birth or shortly after.  Eliza was born 2 years before Eliza.

Unfortunately that's all I know about Hannah.