Advice on Dublin marriage and police please?

[AngelFish]

Hello

Can anyone offer me advice on where to start here please...?

I have a photograph of my gggrandparents Thomas Grant (born 1865) and Sarah (born 1866 nee Stranchan?).  It has been written on, 'Mam & Dad on their Wedding Day, 1887 (or 1883!) Dublin'.

The 1901 census in England shows Thomas Grant was from Birmingham and a police constable, and Sarah from Ireland.  The family story goes that Thomas was a policeman and went to Ireland for 'the troubles' as my Grandma used to tell me.  He got married & brought Sarah back with him.  How could I find out about the wedding, or Sarahs family?  I cannot afford to go to Ireland or pay for research to been done there for me.  I have also been unable to get Thomas birth date to research his parents.

Also, could Thomas have been employed by the Royal Irish Constabulary or by an English force?

Any help is gratefully appreciated.

Claire

                                                             

[skaville]

If you go to your nearest mormon church, they will have marriage records etc. Note down the ref number when youve found it. You can send off 2 euros(from travel agent) and get a small copy of the certificate. Send to GRO, Lombard Street East, Dublin 2.
Mark

[AngelFish]

Hi Mark

Thanks for your help.

I have already tried to search the morman internet site:
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/default.asp

but no details are shown.  I assumed that they would have all records online so no point in trying at a church.  Do you know if this is the case?

Thank you
 Claire

[skaville]

Hiya,
I meant go to the mormon church, the internet site isnt as much help. Most of their churches have the records of the births, marriages, deaths on reels. So you have to go thru year by year, just make an appointment to view. Hope this is more clear.
Mark.

[gmack]

Hi,

There is a complete listing of all the men who served in the RIC, so if your ancestor served he should be on it.

The list is available on microfilm, and I know its kept at the Public Records Office Kew, the PSNI museum have one. as do the Garda Museum in Dublin. It may also be available from the Church of the Latter Day Saints.

The RIC did recruit in England and during the War of Independence recruited special reserves (Black and Tans), and Auxilliares (Auxies). These men were mostly ex soldiers and the latter were mostly ex army officers.

Its important to find out his warrant number before you search and there is a book that contains an alphabetical listing giving the warrant number. If you send me his details I may be able to find his number for you.

The information on microfilm contains the following:

Warrant No.
Name
Age
Height
Native County
Religion
If married
Native County of Wife
Recommendations
Trade
Appointment Date
Allocation (County)
Promotions
Rewards
Punishments
Discharge Date
Injuries
Remarks.

Further information on RIC members may also be available in Kew.

Regards

[AngelFish]

Hi

Thank you for the help!  I have an appointment at Latter Day Saints on Friday so wish me luck, I'm a records center virgin.

I don't know what details you need to find that warrent number but hopefully this will help:

Thomas Grant - born 1865? Birmingham - 1901 census (Newcastle) shows him aged 36, Police Constable

Religion - Roman Catholic (I expect)

I cannot trace him on 1881 census on-line

1901 census also shows:
Wife - Sarah  35  Ireland
Dau  Selina  9  Newcastle
Son  Thomas 7  "
Son  Ernest  5  "
Son  Reginald  3  "
Day  Violet  3mon  "

Regards
 Claire

[gmack]

Hi,

I will try to have some information for you before Friday.

Regards

[AngelFish]

That would be wonderful if you could,  but don't feel bad if you are not able.
  Thank you.

 

[gmack]

Hi

There were 2 Thomas Grants who served in the RIC:

Grant, Thomas               50356

Grant, Thomas Henry     71745

Hope this helps.

regards