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Re: Advice on Dublin marriage and police please?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 08 April 05 16:30 BST (UK) »
Hello

Thank you so much for that.  The records for the first warrent number 50356 are  in exactly the right time period but the second are not.  I have odered the film as they are not kept at the Church and just have to wait now.  Fingers crossed it is my Thomas Grant!

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Re: Advice on Dublin marriage and police please?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 08:50 BST (UK) »
I was reading this thread as my great-grandfather was Thomas Grant, a policeman in Dublin.

I have no connection with this Thomas Grant, but you should be aware that there were two police forces in Ireland at that time - The RIC and the DMP (Dublin Metropolitan Police)
The complete lists of members are available in 2 books written by Jim Herlihy , and you can read them in your local public library

The civil marriage records are now available online via the Mormons
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which is not easy to use, but once you get the hang of it, it does have it all indexed.
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Pugh in North Wales
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Re: Advice on Dublin marriage and police please?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 09:00 BST (UK) »
There is a birth for Thomas Healey Grant in FreeBMD  June 1865, Birmingham, ref. 6d 41

Is this your man?

Kooky

[This is the only birth for a Thomas Grant  in Birmingham, from 1864 to1866]
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Re: Advice on Dublin marriage and police please?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 10:14 BST (UK) »
I was reading this thread as my great-grandfather was Thomas Grant, a policeman in Dublin.

I have no connection with this Thomas Grant, but you should be aware that there were two police forces in Ireland at that time - The RIC and the DMP (Dublin Metropolitan Police)
The complete lists of members are available in 2 books written by Jim Herlihy , and you can read them in your local public library

The civil marriage records are now available online via the Mormons
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html
which is not easy to use, but once you get the hang of it, it does have it all indexed.


Corisande

Thank you very much for your post.  I didn't know there were two police forces in Dublin, and I didn't get any further with finding any of his police records.
I did however find his marriage certificate to Sarah, which actually took place in Birmingham (The Register Office) in 1891!! So I've no idea why Dublin was written on their photo.  I didn't think of looking at English marriage records until I went to the Latter Day Saints Research room where someone looked at the photograph and said they thought it had been taken in England because of the background set!

I will have to try to see if my little local library can get those books in.

Good luck with your Thomas.   :)
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Re: Advice on Dublin marriage and police please?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 10:17 BST (UK) »
There is a birth for Thomas Healey Grant in FreeBMD  June 1865, Birmingham, ref. 6d 41

Is this your man?

Kooky

[This is the only birth for a Thomas Grant  in Birmingham, from 1864 to1866]

Hi Kooky

Thanks for that, I don't have his birth certificate yet.  There is a very good chance that is my Thomas, because his Grandmothers maiden name was Healey.   :)
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Re: Advice on Dublin marriage and police please?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 10:24 BST (UK) »
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I didn't know there were two police forces in Dublin

Just to clarify, there was only one police force in Dublin, and that was the DMP. They had sole responsibility for Dublin policing

RIC were responsible for everything outside Dublin

The two forces did not overlap

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Piper in Tipperary
Blong in Leix
Watson in Offaly
Pugh in North Wales
Evans in North Wales
Proctor in Edinburgh
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Re: Advice on Dublin marriage and police please?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 10:47 BST (UK) »
Oh, okay.  Thank you.x
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Re: Advice on Dublin marriage and police please?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 11:30 BST (UK) »
as far as I know the DMP just covered Dublin City.. the rest of county Dublin was covered by the RIC

 http://www.royalirishconstabulary.com/index2.html



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