George Batey

[2zpool]

Baptisms Tynemouth Christ Church:
John Clark Clouston 11 July 1830 s/o Thomas and Elizabeth, Milburn Place, Mariner
Ellennor Clouston  12 Apr 1835 d/o Thomas and Elizabeth, Milburn Place, Mariner

1841 census: HO107/825/9 folio 11 page 14
Milbourn Place
Elizabeth Clouston, 45, Y
John Clouston, 11, Y
Eleanor Clouston, 6, Y

Above Elizabeth is a John Clark, age 49, Shipwright, Y.  Could be a brother of Elizabeth

Janis

[2zpool]

1851 census HO107/2409 folio 351 page 86
South Street

The next entry past  Atkinson Batey and family

Thomas Clouston, Head, Mar, 60, Seaman, Scotland Stromness
Elizabeth Clouston, Wife, Mar, 57, Northumberland North Shields
John Clouston, Son, Unm, 20, M—something but not Mariner, Northumberland North Shields
Ellen Clouston, Daur, Unm, 16, Scholar, Northumberland North Shields
John Clark, Brother, Widr, 59, Shipwright, Northumberland North Shields

Thomas Clouston was baptised  19 Mar 1794 s/o John Clouston and Janet Spence in Stromness Orkney Scotland

I think I found the baptism of the brother John Clark In Tynemouth:  4 Mar 1892 s/o Henry and Dorothy, North Shields, Mariner

Janis

[anneka]

Just read this thread.  Atkinson Batey and my gt gt grandfather were brothers, sons of John Batey, carter, of Willington Mill Northumberland (it's on the North bank of the Tne, between Newcastle and the coast)

[hpool]

the baptism at all saints church, stranton, west hartlepool, on 16 january, 1859 (and typed as per church book):

george william batty.
son of atkinson and elizabeth batty.
address: residing in west hartlepool.
father an engineer.

no actual date of birth given.

[fergussonfamily]

Hi I'm looking for a different George Batey. I can't find any connection between your family and mine but you may be interested that my family rumour was that my Bateys were related to the Batey family who were tug owners on the River Tyne. That business began in 1840 with a John Batey, born about 1812, and continued with his sons and others into the second half of the 1800's, eventually becoming Lawson-Batey.

Unfortunately, I can't find any connection with that family, but you might want to look more closely given that they are also from North Shields.

Incidentally, at that time, North and South Shields were probably better connected than North Shields and Newcastle. Travel by boat across the river would have been considerably easier than any journey by road. The two Shields were considered as the same port from the point of view of ship registrations. There were so many boats on the Tyne it was said you could walk over it. There was a Mariners Church, St. Hilda's, in South Shields were you will find most sailors married, especially if they were foreign.

Anyhow, I digress. My George Batey was born about 1825 in Newcastle and was a Boiler Maker. He married Sarah Johnson who was born in Gateshead about 1826. He lived in Hanover Square in the 1841 census, while she lived in Pipewellgate, Gateshead. They married in Kingston upon Hull in the first quarter of 1846. They then moved to London and are in Hudson Town, West Ham on the 1851 census and in Poplar in 1861.

George became an  Engine Boiler Maker for the London and Blackwall Railway Company. This railway had been originally designed by Robert Stephenson to use cable-haulage from stationary steam engines but was converted in 1848 to use steam locomotives. I assume this was when George began working for them.

On 26 Aug 1861 George suffered a violent death caused from jumping from a Railway Carriage. His family then stayed with relations in Erith before eventually all returning to the North East.

I'd be interested if anyone has any further information regarding either his death, his work or the Blackwall Railway.

[anneka]

The Tug owner was John Batey my great great grandfather, and Atkinson, known later as Thomas, was his brother. I don 't know why he changed his name. The name Atkinson came into the family through their mother who was Hannah Brown .  When John was baptised one of his sponsors was called Atkinson Brown but I don't know the exact relationship in the Brown family.  Atkinson did not go direct from N. Shields to S. Shields, I think he was in Hartlepool at one time.  He and his wife and two youngest children went to America  Plymouth PA, in about 1870 I think.  His daughter Robina may have married a man of Welsh descent called Richards
Your George Batey is not an obvious relative, but I have not researched the Willington antecedents yet.  There were certainly Bateys in Willington Quay area well into the 19th century  John and Atkinson I have just remembered had two younger brothers called George.  The first died in infancy but the second George, b. May 1824 I haven't been able to trace in later life.  Could he possibly be your ancestor?

[fergussonfamily]

No, if we are related at all it is much further back into the 1700's and I haven't gone back that far. I think his parents were John Batey (b. 1791) and Elizabeth Henderson (b. 1801) both from Belford, Northumberland and married at All Saints, Newcastle in 1820.

Family rumours are often wrong and this one seems to be, but I'm glad you have already made the connection to the tug boat owners yourself.

Have you seen this website:

www.classictugs.co.uk/john_batey.html

Also, George Stephenson lived at Willington Quey, and Robert Stephenson was born there.

I know this is meant to be a Durham Lookups Forum but this thread comes up high on Google searches now and I'd still like to make contact with anyone who could tell me more about my George Batey. I forgot to mention earlier that they were not in London the whole time until his death. He had a son born and baptised in Norwich between those two census.

[anneka]

Sorry we're not long lost cousins.  Thanks for pointing out classic tug website, I have seen it , my gt. grandfather was originally involved with the co. but there was  some kind of disagreement.  lots of info. on Google about Blackwall railway but I  expect you've seen that

[Richardj]

A bit late on this one, but I do have the following which indicates that George Batey (married to Sarah Johnson) probably was the brother of John of the tug company.  All the children of John Batey and Hannah Brown were registered at the Baptist Church of Tuthill in Newcastle upon Tyne and the images can be seen on Ancestry.They are listed as follows.

Entry 69, John, 1st child, born 1 May 1811 at Willington Mill
Entry 70, Frances, 2nd child, born 19 February 1813 at Gateshead St Mary
Entry 71, Atkinson, 3rd child, born 9 April 1815 at Pilgrim Street, Newcastle
Entry 86, Mary Ann, 4th child, born 14 January 1818 at Pilgrim Street, Newcastle
Entry 87, George, 5th child, born 21 June 1820 at Pilgrim Street, Newcastle
Entry 114, Surtes, 6th child, born 22 February 1822 at Pilgrim Street, Newcastle
Entry 115, George, 7th child, born 12 May 1824 at Pilgrim Street, Newcastle
Entry 129, Thomas, 8th child, born 1 May 1826 at Pilgrim Street, Newcastle
Entry 134, Hannah, 9th child, born 5 December 1827,  at Pilgrim Street, Newcastle

The age and location of birth in the various census returns for George & Sarah tie nicely with the one listed above and I think that the family rumour of connection is correct.

There is one other circumstantial piece of information which may or may not help.  George's son George Johnson married a Hannah Dodds who was the daughter of Ellen Boutland.  She was a member of the Boutland family at Heworth who founded the shipyard at Felling.  At the time of their marriage, it can be conjectured that there would be contact between a family operating tugs and one building ships.

Richard