George Batey

[Andrewbatey]

I'm totally new to this and just starting out. I recently attended my grandfathers funeral in Wilkes-Barre, PA and realized that a significant amount of my family is from Wilkes-Barre/Plymouth, Pennsylvania.

Does anyone have any information about any Batey's coming to that area of the US?

Last Solid information I have is George Francis Batey (1885-1970) married to Nellie Durbin Batey (1886-1965). I was told George's dad was burried in a nearby cemetary that had a lot of flooding so the stones have been wiped away. I believe his fathers name was George as well and I was told he had a brother named William.

Any help?

I've traced the Durbin's back to George Durbin (1852-1894) married to Caroline Durbin (1851-1912). Those are Nellie Batey's Parents.

Any help?

[sillgen]

Hi and welcome to rootschat
Do you have any proof that your family originated in Durham?    If not then we might be better moving your post to the Beginners' Board so that more people see it.  Where did the marriage for George and Nellie take place?  I can see a birth for George Francis Batey in Gateshead in 1860 (not one in 1885) but there is also a death in 1861.  That may be the same one or another generation.   www,freebmd.org.uk is a very useful site to check that sort of thing.  When did they emigrate?
Regards
Andrea

Post now split from old topic.

[2zpool]

 George Francis died after 1905 you could get the death cert from Pennsylvania.  Follow the US census up until you do not see the father George William then order a ten year search for his death certificate.  If any family knew his origin and parents names they are asked on the form and this would include his mother's maiden name.  You would find out what Jennie's last name was then find her birth in England.

From the WWI and WWII draft entries George Francis Batey was born in Plymouth, Luzerne CO., PA 18 Nov 1885.  Looking at the 1900 census where George is still at home his father was George William Batey born England, and mother was a Jennie also born England but the most likely married in the US.  George William Batey was born according to census Sept 1857.  There is a birth of a George William Batey registered 1857 Sept ¼ Stockton 10a 93.  He emigrated to the US in 1870 so most likely will not appear on the 1871 in England and may or may not appear of the US 1870--depending on when he traveled.

Janis
formerly of PA

[2zpool]

Most likely family as they are also in the 1880 census for Plymouth PA

1861 census RG9/3788 folio 106 page 32
Westoe, Borough of South Shields, Ward Jarrow, District Holy Trinity
No 5 Eldon Street
Thomas A.? Batey, Head, Mar, 46, Waterman, Northumberland Newcastle
Elizabeth Batey, Wife, Mar,40, Northumberland North Shields
Thomas Batey, Son, Unm, 18, Waterman, Northumberland North Shields
Mary Ellen Batey, Daur, Unm, 20, Northumberland North Shields
Ann Elizabeth Batey, Daur, 16, Scholar, Northumberland North Shields
Hannah Batey, Daur, 13, Scholar, Northumberland North Shields
George Wm. Batey, Son, 3, Durham West Hartlepool
Robina Batey, Daur, 1, Durham South Shields

West Hartlepool is in the Stockton registration district.


There is a marriage registered in Newcastle for a Thomas Batty and Elizabeth Bedford in 1844 Mar ¼  Newcastle Tyne 25 263, they married at All Saints Church.  Getting their marriage cert will give both father's names.  But first you must find out if this is your family.  I suspect it is.

Janis

[2zpool]

You should probably start a new thread as this is one that was marked as completed. 

Janis

[2zpool]

Thanks Andrea for putting this in a separate thread

Janis

[Andrewbatey]

Hi Janis!

Thanks for the help! It's crazy, but my grandfather and aunt had some papers and birth certificates. I wasn't exactly sure where everything fit but you helped confirm that for me. 

Turns out among other things, we have the original wood trunk my line of the Batey's came over to America with.  There is also a church type book that listed all the kids that Thomas Atkinson Batey (A. was for Atkinson) and Elizabeth Batey had including the death dates for the children.

The document I found, which i previously wasn't sure where it fit, says that Thomas Atkinson Batey was born April 9, 1815 and died July 10, 1882. THEY WERE MARRIED March 25, 1838 in what looks like (writing is faint) Milburn Place, South Shields, England.

I'm new to this and not sure what sites to go to....where would I track down documents on Thomas Atkinson Batey and Elizabeth Batey from Milburn Place?

Thanks again! Before your help I wasn't sure where everything fit and you helped me put everything together!

Best,

Andrew

[2zpool]

That marriage document you have should state her maiden name.  That is what you need to know.  If they married in 1838 there should be a marriage registered.  Does it say a church or was it the registry office.  There are so many ways to spell Batey that are around and it was not an uncommon name.  Beattie, Beatie, Beaty, Bettey, Batty, etc.

If the marriage papers you have do not have her maiden name then you do need to order George William's birth certificate.  It is about $15.00 USD.  You order from the GRO and can pay by credit or debit card.  You don't need to put anything down but the reference numbers  It may ask for things--occupation of the father etc but don't fill that in.  It also must be spelled how it is in the index.  Once you are sure of the mother's name then we can find the appropriate marriage.  That cert will give you the couple's fathers name and occupation and the couplde's address.  In England back then you had to get married in either a church or the register office.  No in the home marriages.

I do have one concern--there is a big gap in years between Hannah and George.  Are there children in the records you unearthed that shows other children? Was Mary Ellen the first?  She could be Mary Eleanor.


1851 HO107/2409 Fiolio 351 page 86
North Shields, Tynemouth
South Street
Atkinson Batey, Head, Mar, 35, Engineer of Steam vessel, Northumberland Newcastle upon Tyne
Elizabeth Batey, Mar, 37? or 32, Northumberland North Shields
Mary Ellen Batey, Daur, 10, Scholar, Northumberland North Shields
Thomas Batey, Son, 7, Scholar, Northumberland North Shields
Ann E. Batey, Daur, 5, Scholar, Northumberland North Shields
Hannah Batey, Daur, 2, Northumberland North Shields

I would be a little surprised if they married in South Shields but anything is possible it is only across the river

There is a a baptism of Thomas Batey in Tynemouth Christ Church on 8 Sept 1839 son of Atkinson and Elizabeth


It could be that Thomas Atkinson Batey's father was a Thomas so instead of calling him junior they used his middle name but that is speculation.  I have been trying to find a marriage of anyone named Batey with an Atkinson

1841 censusHO107/835/9 folio 12 page 15
Tynemouth, Milbourn Place (note the address)
Atkinson Batey, 27 waterman, Y
Elizabeth Atkinson, 22, Y
Mary Ellen Atkinson, 1mo, Y (Mary was crossed out)

Milburn Place or street is a residence in North Shields/Tynemouth not the address of a church

Janis

[2zpool]

There is a marriage in St. John the Baptist 1838 between Atkinson Batey and Elizabeth Clouston.  The GRO register no is 1838 Mar ¼ Newcastle on Tyne 25 295

There is a baptism in Tynemouth (North Shields) of Elizabeth Cloweston d/o Thomas and Elizabeth 23 July 1819 Milburn Place, Mariner

Also at Tynemouth Christ Church a marriage of Thomas Clouston and Elizabeth Clark 18 Dec 1815, by banns, both were single, witnesses were William Clouston and Elizabeth Russell.

Janis