Edward Batha / Bather born 1862 Llansilin * COMPLETED *

[sr30765]

It is possible that he may have changed his surname just like his brother John and for the same reasons.

Edward / Mary and son Edward cannot be found on the 1901 census under Batha / Bather and I have done searches in England & Wales just using Christian names and year of birth with + / - 2 years but nothing stands out.

There is no trace of all three after the 1891 census

[Gadget]

Have you considered this death:

Edward Bather aged 34, Jun q, 1896, Conway, vol 11b  p 355


Gadget

[sr30765]

Thanks Gadget

No, seemed to have missed that. You may have found a winner with that DCR, and the correct age too. It could also mean that Mary remarried (or married a first time) after Edward Snr's death and also changed her son's surname upon remarriage. That's another DC to be ordered next week

I have now noticed a marriage at Conway in 1907 of an Edward Bather, could this be the son then aged 18 ?

I have to go out for a couple of hours now so will have a look when I return. that death is in the right area as son Edward was registered at Conway

Many thanks

[wrjones]

In 1901 at Conway are;
Mary Bather,born c 1865 Conway,Head
Mary,daughter born c 1893 Conway
Ed son born c 1889 Conway
Hugh son born c 1891 Conway.
RG13/5286/40/43.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[Gadget]

Using the free index of the 1911, which we are  allowed to mention,  the family that William lists are in Conway, as Bartha



Gadget

[Gadget]

This looks like Mary's death:

Mary Bather, aged 70. March q, 1832, Conway, vol 11b, p 673

and it looks as if daughter Mary married a   Robert Jones, Dec q, 1913, Conway, vol 11b p 846

son Hugh J Barther  served  WW1 in the Welsh Guards and the Royal Welch Fusilliers - Reg Nos. 1439 and 222 (medal card only)

son Edward Barther served WW1 in the Bn RWF,  Reg No. 479 . I've found his service record (He was 5ft 4 1/2 ins and demobbed 2nd March 1919) Not sure if this was not  TA or not  His mother, Mary, is down as next of kin. He was a postman


Gadget

[Gadget]

There are a few Edward Ba*ther/a marriages but this looks like Hugh's:

Hugh J Bather March q, 1927, Conway, vol 11b p 690
Spouse - Catherine Bohane

Gadget

[Gadget]

Hi again 

This might well be a  late marriage of Edward and Mary

Mar q, 1894, Conway vol 11b p 615

Edward Bather/Bathen and Maria Ellen Roberts on the same page



Gadget

[sr30765]

Thanks very much all you guys and dolls for your assistance, the postman is of interest. I spent 30 years with the Post Office and my youngest daughter is a postwoman

Now I need to digest all this info and place into my extended tree