Goldsmith Family Ramsgate Kent

[roberts-janes]

One more thing - their Walter is -
Walter Thomas Goldsmith - 1847-1888
 Born: Gravesend, Kent, , England
 Died: Williamstown, Victoria, Australia
Father - James Cook Goldsmith 1815-1884
Mother - Elizabeth Walter 1819-1885.
our Walter is -
Walter Joseph Goldsmith (b.1849 Ramsgate)
Baptised 17/6/1849 Ramsgate, kent (LDS IGI)
1861 - with brother & wife in Ramsgate.
father - Charles Goldsmith
mother - Maria Freeman
thought to have gone to Australia.
Margot in Melbourne 

[roberts-janes]

ho ho more research done today....
Elizabeth Pullen Goldsmith child of Charles Goldsmith and Maria Freeman (Baptised 26/7/1835, St Georges, Ramsgate (LDS IGI) emigrated to Australia 1854 (this info & marriage from Ancestry members family tree) and married Peter Bedford Keogh/Keough in Australia.  Digger records show Elizabeth Goldsmith and Peter Bedford Keough had a son named Thomas Henry Keough in 1859 Burnt Creek, and his death at Maldon, Victoria, a gold mining town in 1882 with mother named as Elizabeth Pullin Goldsmith, and father Peter Bedford Keough.  Other children listed as all born in Lockwood, Victoria ( near the gold-mining town of Bendigo)  were - Frederick William Keaugh in 1862, Charles Keough in 1864, died age 5 yrs in 1870,  Ellen Maria Keough in 1867, Walter Keough in 1869, Caroline Esther Keough in 1872, and Clara Jane Keough in 1874.  Elizabeth Pullen Goldsmith was the sister of our Maria Ann Goldsmith) and these children were her nieces and nephews.  Interesting how some of the names are repeated in the family..

This then makes the children of Charles Goldsmith and Maria Freeman from Kent England who were found to have gone to Australia as –
Charles James Goldsmith (b.1826) Married Anna Maria Lawrence 1857 Sydney NSW
d.1867 Petersham NSW)
Maria Ann Goldsmith (b.1833 Ramsgate) had 6 children to Jabez Janes in Williamstown, Victoria.
Elizabeth Pullen Goldsmith (b 1835) married Peter Bedford Keogh/Keough in Australia, and had 7 children born in Lockwood near Bendigo, Victoria..
Caroline Frances Goldsmith (b.1841 Ramsgate)  married Archibald Price in 1859 in Williamstown.  d.1869 Williamstown, Victoria.
Sarah Ellen Elizabeth Goldsmith (b.1846) married Henry Hall in 1865 in Williamstown.  if any one wants more info please contact me - Margot in Melbourne.

[Wheatman]

Phew, Margot, that's a relief.

The next question that crops up is "are the Gravesend Goldsmiths related to our Ramsgate Goldsmiths?"

Thats a question that some wise sage other than me will have to ponder, but the commonality of christian names might suggest a link.

Thank you for that detailed info you kindly sent

Regards

Roger

[roberts-janes]

thanks Roger, the other Walter Thomas Goldsmith could be related back a generation or so, but I'll leave it up to you guys in the UK to sort that out, as now I've completed this research into which Goldsmiths came out to Australia, I can now finish my family history book and get it printed before Xmas.. and go out in that lovely sunshine we have here.. have a happy Xmas y'all.. hugs from your cousin in Australia..Margot

[debbie_dw]

Re Walter Joseph Goldsmith,
 In Melbourne Argus 1864 message reads,
 To Mrs James (Janes), maiden name Maria Goldsmith or to Mrs Price maiden name Caroline Goldsmith please send your address to C Freeman 60 Harris Street Pymont Sydney, your brother Walter and sister Sarah have arrived and wish to hear from you.
We know Sarah must have come to Melbourne to meet up with Maria & Caroline as she married Henry Hall, maybe Walter stayed on in Sydney. Charles James Goldsmith owned a grocer shop in Pymont NSW and Charles's father Charles Goldsmith married a Maria Freeman. Maybe Walter stayed in NSW with his brother?

[roberts-janes]

looks like Debbie solved part of the mystery and that young Walter Joseph Goldsmith went to Sydney and stayed there with his brother Charles James Goldmsith, as I've found no trace of him in Melbourne. looks like the sisters all went to Melbourne - Maria, Sarah & Caroline.
But the other Walter Thomas Goldsmith who died in Williamstown could be a cousin of the Goldsmiths who also lived in Williamstown.  any body know..??
Walter Thomas Goldsmith - 1847-1888
 Born: Gravesend, Kent, , England
 Died: Williamstown, Victoria, Australia
Father - James Cook Goldsmith 1815-1884
Mother - Elizabeth Walter 1819-1885.
thanks Debbie, Margot in Melbourne.

[debbie_dw]

Does anybody have a marriage for Elizabeth Pullen Goldsmith to Peter Bedford Keogh/Keough in either England or Australia. I know they had their first child Thomas Keough in 1859 at Burnt Creek Victoria.

[middo]

Hi,
I'm here in Sydney using the Melboure weather that we are currently enjoying to extend my wife's family history and have found all this amazing archive relating to Charles Goldsmith/Maria Freeman descendants.

After finding much of the family heritage independantly through the Ancestry and Familysearch sites (it's great to have confirmation!) I stumbled on all this information. Although I had found 3 of her siblings arrived in Australia, I am stunned to find so many of her siblings found their way to the antipodes.

My wife is descended from Sarah Ellen Goldsmith through her 2nd marriage to William Charles CRUMP (m NSW 1871). They had 5 daughters, 2 of whom died in infancy.

It would be wonderful to make contact with some of her distant cousins, and I'd be happy to share details of her branch of the Goldsmith clan with any of you who might be part of the extended family.

Cheers

John Middleton

[roberts-janes]

Hi John, good to find another Goldsmith relative - mine was Maria Ann Goldsmith who 'married' Jabez Janes.
daughter of Charles Goldsmith and Maria Freeman. am happy to share with you.
Margot in Melbourne. (see my earlier posts....)