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Deochrie in Glenbucket
« on: Sunday 20 June 10 04:46 BST (UK) »
Hi,

My great grandfather Scott Stuart came from Deochrie in Glenbucket and I'm trying to any information that I can on this location in Glenbucket and also any family history on Scott's family.

I have been through the census records and the Scotland Archives records and I have some good information from these sources but I have almost nothing on Deochrie itself.

I assume that Deochrie would have been an address in Glenbucket comprising of a few crofts but exactly where in Glenbuck it was located is a mystery to me.   

There has been various spelling for Deochrie depending on what census etc, different spelling include.

Deochrie
Deochry
Dochry

I have had a guess as to Deochrie's location by checking out the census information and seeing what addresses are located around Deochrie assuming that whoever carried out the census would have gone in an organised manner from clachan to clachan.

Any help would be appreciated

Regards

Gerry
 

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Re: Deochrie in Glenbucket
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 June 10 05:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Gerry

Some links which may help

http://www.urie.demon.co.uk/genuki/ABD/Glenbuchat/description.html

http://www.urie.demon.co.uk/genuki/ABD/parishmap1.html

http://www.glenbuchatheritage.com/picture/number398.asp

http://sites.google.com/site/glenbuchatancestors/history


On the latter, there is marked a place above the O in  the lettes  D O N - which might be Dechorie? in another spelling form?

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Re: Deochrie in Glenbucket
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 June 10 05:50 BST (UK) »

AMBLY,

Thanks for fast response, I'll check these sites out.

Regards

Gerry

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Re: Deochrie in Glenbucket
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 June 10 05:51 BST (UK) »
http://www.glenbuchatheritage.com/picture/number193.asp

Photo: 1900 - Dr Howie,the doctor for Strathdon and Glenbuchat, outside Rob McPhersons cottage at the Deochry

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Re: Deochrie in Glenbucket
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 June 10 06:20 BST (UK) »

AMBLY,

Thanks, nice photo and a great Glenbucket site.

From the census information of 1901 there were 5 households at Deochrie with the McPhersons next door to the Stuarts so this photo gives a good representation of what the structures lookede like.

The Stuarts had been at Deochrie since at least 1841 and the McPhersons appeared in the 1871 census when there were 4 families.

I appreciate your help.

Gerry

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Re: Deochrie in Glenbucket
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 27 June 21 08:05 BST (UK) »
Hi there,
Scott Stuart/Stewart is my great-great grandfather through his daughter Maggie Jane Stewart. I've also been curious about the location of the Deochry so 2 days ago I took a trip to Glenbuchat and took this photo from the top of Ben Newe looking across to Tom Breac, the area in between appears to be where the crofts of the Deochry would have been.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/JYpvvuXyFQPxhrvRA

As per previous posts, the Glenbuchat Heritage site has a wealth of information and photos including this one of Scott Stewart's wife Annie's funeral card. - http://glenbuchatheritage.com/picture/number295.asp

I have been able to trace the family line back a couple of generations but the spelling seems to differ between Stuart and Stewart which doesn't make it easy, but I'm more than happy to share what I've got. You can cotact me at bainmb@googlemail.com
Best wishes
Michael


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Re: Deochrie in Glenbucket
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 27 June 21 09:43 BST (UK) »
This might help - it shows the Moss of Deochry and Burn of Deochry.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.21903&lon=-3.05214&layers=168&b=1

Or go to https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ3515 and click on the map to enlarge it.

Maybe Eastertown, Midtown and Westertown were all originally '...of Deochry'?

That would fit with the 1881 census, where Deochry is listed in the same ED (Enumeration District) as Newtown, Kirktown, Dockington, Miltown, Mains (of Glenbuchat), Bridge of Bucket, Easterbucket, Blackhillock etc etc, all of which can be found on modern maps, and a few other places I can't find, but there is no listing of Eastertown, Midtown or Westertown.

The place below the O in the map at https://sites.google.com/site/glenbuchatancestors/history is Deskry not Deochrie. See https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ3812
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Re: Deochrie in Glenbucket
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 June 21 09:47 BST (UK) »
I took a trip to Glenbuchat and took this photo from the top of Ben Newe looking across to Tom Breac, the area in between appears to be where the crofts of the Deochry would have been.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/JYpvvuXyFQPxhrvRA
I can't look at that without signing in to a Google account that I don't have and don't want.

Could you add it here as an attachment, then everyone will be able to see it?

There are more photographs of the same area at
https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ3614
https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ3714
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Re: Deochrie in Glenbucket
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 27 June 21 14:55 BST (UK) »
From W. M. Alexander's "The place-names of Aberdeenshire":

Duchrie, Aboyne, Birse, Craithie, Oyne, Monymusk, Glenbucket. With various spellings Deochrie, Deuchery, Duchries. In one case a hill, in another a farm but in the others, and in all cases originally, the name of a burn. In the Crathie district there are two burns of this name, tributaries of the Gairn and Feardar. It is a wide-spread stream-name in Scotland. In this county the dialect pronunciation is Dyoochry ( with open o, in the first syllable exactly like the Gael. deoch, drink); but the sounds Dyoochry and Doochry are frequent. The Glenbucket occurrence gives its name, 'the Deuchries', to the Glenbucket-Strathdon road.

Of Glenbucket itself, Alexander says "in the dialect, usually pronounced Glenbicket ... the spelling Glenbuchat, still sometimes used, and general in the old written forms, reflects the Gaelic sound ..."