Thanks. no one has been able to find Thomas Kavanagh ever. I did find, yesterday, a Thomas Kavanagh in the military records for the Boar War, first Leinster Reg on page 637 but i cannot get into the records as i am not a paying member - could be him.
As for Joseph Edward he was married in 1901, i have that cert, but not sure about the 1901 census as he should be on there but...
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