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Re: Help: Court Martialled & Missing in UK, Capt: Albert Edward Harrison AIF
« Reply #108 on: Thursday 01 July 10 14:06 BST (UK) »
Roger and Ian

There is a Medal Index Card for this man [A Harrison - East Kents]  on the NA website:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=2754160&queryType=1&resultcount=5

unfortunately it gives his initials as W. A. - so not so promising as first thought.

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Re: Help: Court Martialled & Missing in UK, Capt: Albert Edward Harrison AIF
« Reply #109 on: Thursday 01 July 10 14:13 BST (UK) »
Maybe, maybe not! Remember this is a change of identity. Of course there could always be an error either on the medal card or on the army list. I think this officer ought to be checked out thoroughly if only for the process of elimination. That allocation date to the rank must be a big coincidence!
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Re: Help: Court Martialled & Missing in UK, Capt: Albert Edward Harrison AIF
« Reply #110 on: Thursday 01 July 10 14:34 BST (UK) »
Ian & Roger

I've just tracked down the Mick@the buffs connection on the GWF and posted a request to him for any information on the Harrison in the East Kents. I agree this has to be checked and if there is nothing conclusive back from the GWF then I'll have a go myself next week back at Kew.

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Re: Help: Court Martialled & Missing in UK, Capt: Albert Edward Harrison AIF
« Reply #111 on: Thursday 01 July 10 14:37 BST (UK) »
What day are you going? Perhaps we could co-operate?
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Re: Help: Court Martialled & Missing in UK, Capt: Albert Edward Harrison AIF
« Reply #112 on: Thursday 01 July 10 14:39 BST (UK) »
Roger,

Not sure yet - possibly Tuesday - would that suit you?

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Re: Help: Court Martialled & Missing in UK, Capt: Albert Edward Harrison AIF
« Reply #113 on: Thursday 01 July 10 14:42 BST (UK) »
unfortunately not available Tuesday. After further consulting the calendar find I am not available next week. Managed again to confuse myself.
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Re: Help: Court Martialled & Missing in UK, Capt: Albert Edward Harrison AIF
« Reply #114 on: Thursday 01 July 10 14:45 BST (UK) »
I can't do Friday, I'm meeting some old mates for lunch. Let's see what the next couple of days brings then confer again.

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Re: Help: Court Martialled & Missing in UK, Capt: Albert Edward Harrison AIF
« Reply #115 on: Thursday 01 July 10 14:46 BST (UK) »
Good idea, this topic is bound to move on.
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Re: Help: Court Martialled & Missing in UK, Capt: Albert Edward Harrison AIF
« Reply #116 on: Friday 02 July 10 03:00 BST (UK) »
G'day jds1949,

firstly,  many thanks for having a dip at this problem.

You said:

Went to Kew today - 12 L/t Harrison's on the graduation list of 1918, no Al/Ed's, most risen through the ranks of B/Army, or coms'd before AEH GCM & Dismissal August 1917,

Not looking good for 1918....!


1:/ Is there a graduation list for 1919?
2:/ Given the discussions that we've have on this thred, might it be possible that AEH did a stint as a non Officer in the British Army prior to Commission, then appearing to be a soldier rising through the ranks........?
3:/ If you are saying that most were Coms'nd before AEH was CMtl'd, does this mean they were Coms'nd in 1917 and the List was created in 1918?

The Army List for January 1920 - 

I can't understand why there aren’t any AE Harrison's in the 1920 list,  I believe there should be at least one according to the Lond Gaz and other sources (see attached list) This man I am referring to is Alfred Ernest Harrison who has an impeccable English record and history, so not my man, but begs the question why isn't he on the 1920 Army List??? he was definitely in the Army in 1918 and 1920 and infact 1922 in the Army of Occupation Germany, he was also in Beds and Herts and 4th Bn Norf Reg.

It's difficult to know if we are seeing anomalies in the records or as we suspect AEH isn't really there as AEH. There appears to be some differences between the various resources. I am trying to reconcile the different resources as we speak.

As you say, there aren’t any reasonable AEH's but there are plenty of A's that will require investigation. If we ascribe to the KISS principal then A's must be first to investigate if there no AE's or reasonable alternatives to be found

Regarding the provision of previously researched personnel. Initially, I didn't want to pre-empt or stifle any thoughts or ideas. My original work has turned up nothing, my existing research and documents would appear to be worthless except to remove them as future and potential possibilities.  I agree that double work is not a sensible process, I will attach what I have with me today (references and indexes). I intend to re-visit these old records again as my original search criteria is no longer valid. If you want the actual documents I can email these directly to you.

This attachment is an old chronological list of events and includes most of the researched soldiers that I have looked at, I hope it's of some use, the larger lists and work will be sent ASAP

Thanks again

Ian
Harrison:  Elslack in Craven, Broughton in Craven, Carleton in Craven, Earby, Cowling, in UK
Harrison:  Richmond, Kew, Carlton, Brushgrove, Melbourne , in Oz
Capt A E Harrison. AIF,  Missing in UK