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3xGreat Grandparents from Cork
« on: Tuesday 15 June 10 01:23 BST (UK) »
From previous posts of others in reponse to my question, I have learned a few things about my 3x Great grandparents, John Dorgan and Mary Bruadar Dorgan of Cork, but I am seeking more information.  I commissioned a search through Mallow Heritage Center which turned up nothing more than I already discovered myself.  The only record found was the marriage of John and Mary in Blarney Parish, Cork on February 18, 1827. The witnesses were: Timothy Buckley and John Sullivan; but, the record does not include the name of the Church, or the village or town Mary or John came from.  Does anyone know the name of the Church(s) in Blarney parish in 1827?

From this and other chat sites, I know that most Dorgans came from the area around Blarney Castle, and that Bruadar was a common name in Cork, not so much anymore, but there are still some variations of Bruadar in Cork City.

John and Mary, and their two daughters, Abigail and Mary (no baptism record found),  emigrated to the US arriving in New York May, 1842.  They may have stayed few years in Manhattan, but by 1850 they were settled in Brooklyn  and remained life long residents of the Williamsburg section.  Their daughter, Abigail married William McLaughlin (born in Ireland) and they had 8 children. They also lived in the  Williamsburg section.  Abigail and William’s daughter Abigail (Abby) married Patrick F. Haggerty (born in England to Irish parents).   Abby and Patrick were my great grandparents and also lived in Brooklyn.  Patrick was a jeweler.

Any information about Dorgans or Bruadars in Cork who had relatives settle in Brooklyn, NY would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: 3xGreat Grandparents from Cork
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 June 10 10:19 BST (UK) »
Don't think this is the actual church that was there in 1827 but probably on the same site http://variouscplaces.net/cloyne/parishes/blarneychurch.htm
The church records for Blarney are on www.irish-roots.ie €5 to view but free to search (this is the database Mallow Heritage use)
It would have been usual for the marriage to take place in the bride's home place. Try searching under variants of Bruadar.
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Murley Cork

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Re: 3xGreat Grandparents from Cork
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 June 10 00:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for your response and information about the church.  Also, I will try your suggestion and check the website you list. Is there any explanation why the record would not list the church?

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Re: 3xGreat Grandparents from Cork
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 June 10 09:24 BST (UK) »
There was only 1 RC church & 1 C of I church in Blarney. It was a small village of 430 people in 1830.
Most of the villagers were employed either by the Colthurst/Jefferyes family or  in the Woollen Mills.

The Colthursts owned large portions of the land around Blarney and North Cork. The Estate Papers are available to view in the Cork Archives www.corkarchives.ie & list tenants on the estates & have wages books & rent books etc.

The Woollen Mills was a big employer in Blarney in the 1800/1900s but I don't know of any surviving records.

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Re: 3xGreat Grandparents from Cork
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 June 10 22:47 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Did they say it was the parish of Blarney or just Blarney?  The parish of Blarney (Garrycloyne) was much larger than just Blarney village.  The church in Blarney village is the Immaculate Conception but there was also St. Patrick's Church in Whitechurch in 1822. Father Matt Horgan was the pp in Blarney & Whitechurch around that time. They could have been from any of the towns around Blarney. You could try and write to the Parish house in Blarney & Whitechurch to see if they could help you.
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 June 10 01:01 BST (UK) »
Mallow Heritage Center as well as what I found, said Blarney Parish. So, thank you for the tip and I will certainly write becasue I live in Southern California and have no plans to get to Ireland in the near future.  Have been there five times but did not take advantage of the time for genealogy.  It just seems odd to me that the record does not have the church or the villages/towns that the couple came from.

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 June 10 15:28 BST (UK) »
In those days the records were kept by the priest who preformed the ceremony and it was very hit & miss. Some church records have lots of info others have little or none. Luck of the draw I'm afraid.
By 1864 civil registation came into force and records were kept by the Registration office so far more detail available.
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