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Re: glassworks in Dublin 1830's to 1875
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 30 June 10 09:20 BST (UK) »
HI Alison,

No I haven't had anything that really helps me work out why he left Scotland to live and work in Dublin in the Glassworks industry.

I did find an article a few years ago where he exhibited a stained glass window I think but I cannot find the article. It was a big exhibition in Dublin where all sorts of stuff were exhibited and awards were given.

If i find it I will send it on.

My guy must have had a supply of sand and whatever else required to manufacture in Dublin so its curious where these supplies came from if not locally?

John Carrick had a large area to use as production and warehousing of his products but I don't know if he actually manufactuered at 5 Mary's Abbey or not.
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 30 June 10 09:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Skoosh,

Yes but nothing for my John Carrick.
I think he made his mark in glass in Dublin so wouldn't have a record as such in Scotland.

I read the article on Dumbarton Glass a family connection of his.

thanks for the tip.
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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 30 June 10 11:44 BST (UK) »
I saved this about Dumbarton:
"The Dumbarton concern was the largest glassworks in Scotland…..
The extant records of the Dumbarton Glass Work Company, which was in existence from 1777 to 1850, with the exception of six years between I832 and I838, provide an almost unique insight into a business which was during the first three decades of the nineteenth century the largest concern of its type in Scotland and probably the pre-eminent glass undertaking in Britain.
…..Dixon family who, by 1816, had established beyond all doubt their control which was to last until 1832. From 1838 until 1850 the company was owned by James Christie, ironmaster and partner in the Calder Iron Works, but it never regained its economic leadership and when it ultimately closed 1850 the undertaking was a mere shadow of its former self.
http://www.dumbarton-online.com/glass.htm - details about manufacture.
In 1831 :         300 men employed at £1.00 Per Week" 

Skilled glass workers moved around a lot. I think my ggrandfather moved to Glasgow because the business in Dumbarton failed, but why he went to Dublin in 1870 I don't know.
I read that there is lots of sand in Ringsend, it's also by the docks and bottles were exported from there, but apart from the possible connection with Guinness (according to my uncle) I haven't found any info. :(         - Alison
LITTLE - Lancs, Cheshire. Dumbarton, Dublin and Glasgow - and South Africa. Also Canada

PRICE, ALLEN, JONES, JACKSON - Gwersyllt and Wrexham

ANDREWS, DOWSE, MEMERY - Dublin, US, and Canada

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 30 June 10 12:18 BST (UK) »
Wow thanks for that link. I hadn't seen it before.
Its interesting after John Carrick died in 1861 his estate went a lengthy court dispute between his wife Ellen and his children and Thomas Pilkington. I assume Thomas was from the Pilkington Glass Co and John Carrick must have been a creditor or partner of some sort with him.

I really need to find out if the court of chancery records are still available to look up and find out what the dispute was and the result. The newspaper reports I found did not state the finding of the case.

John married Jean McAulay daughter of John McAulay and Catherine  and thier daughter Catherine Ann married Jacob Dixon of Dumbarton Glass.
I think there is a connection for John McAulay Carrick that he goes into the glass business in Dublin but I just don't know all the facts.

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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 30 June 10 12:42 BST (UK) »
http://www.archive.org/stream/officialcatalogu00exhi#page/76/mode/2up

this is the link for the 1853 exhibition in Dublin which featured Glassworks.
quite a lot from Scotland and England. page 76.

Not sure if your people are in it. this is not the one with John Carrick in it. I will keep searching for it.

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 30 June 10 12:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Alison,
I found it.
go to google books and type in
triennial exhibition of manufacturers 1853 dublin
the exhibition will come up. You could probably do the same for later years for your people.

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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 30 June 10 12:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Alison

Sorry page 397 onwards.
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 30 June 10 18:14 BST (UK) »
Not surprised to find Pilkingtons putting their oar in. They seem to have been a very aggressive company at this time.
In the same year, 1861, they bought and closed down a glassworks in Newton-le-Willows (possible rivals). The works opened up again in 1866 and John Little's father joined it from Glasgow. Then they made only bottles, which wasn't a threat!

The works, partnerships and connections changed a lot. They seem to have to put breakups in the newspaper (the Glasgow Herald has some) but not new partnerships.....you can search the GH online if you are a library member.

There are lots of Carricks and McCauleys in Dumbarton, aren't there!
Thanks for the links, they need study! - Alison

 
LITTLE - Lancs, Cheshire. Dumbarton, Dublin and Glasgow - and South Africa. Also Canada

PRICE, ALLEN, JONES, JACKSON - Gwersyllt and Wrexham

ANDREWS, DOWSE, MEMERY - Dublin, US, and Canada

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 30 June 10 20:43 BST (UK) »
Has anyone found their ancestor in the directory as a Glazier? If so he may have been in the Guild of St. Loy (Smiths' Guild) and a freeman of Dublin city.  It's worth looking into
McCleans in Offaly/Westmeath/Kildare.