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John Daintry
« on: Saturday 15 May 10 10:56 BST (UK) »
I am looking for the family of John Daintry, born Cheshire somewhere between 1816 to 1820, I have him in Chester Court in 1832 receiving 6 weeks and whipping and then in 1834 he was transported to Australia for 7 years.

Appreciate any help that I can get.

LesD
Research Names -- Smithson, Dickinson, Craven, Christian, Perry, Hayes, Law, Shaw

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Re: John Daintry
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 May 10 18:14 BST (UK) »
Hi,

There is a marriage of a John Dainty to a Hannah Jones 16th July 1816 at St. Oswalds Chester (Family Search Pilot site) however I cannot see any baptisms for 'your' John or any children from this couple, I also cannot see them in the census to check them out!

Not much help I know but perhaps Hannah a family name...

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Re: John Daintry
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15 May 10 20:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Les,
Are you in a position to visit the Records Office in Chester to look at the trial records themselves? I have found that they sometimes reveal other charges and info which isn't on Ancestry. You may find something in the local papers too.

I notice from Ancestry that he died in Australia.
Shepherd, Moran, Bath, Keating, Putt - Chester
Trussell - Flint / West Bromwich
Hughes - Flint / Oakenholt
Challinor / Chaloner - Chester / Wirral / Hawarden / Holt
Reynolds - Chester
Edwards - Rossett / Pulford
Strange - Chester / Shropshire
Bayliss - Rossett / Allington / Pulford

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Re: John Daintry
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 15 May 10 23:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks, not possible as I live in Australia, I have tried to locate information on the trials on the web, but limited information seems to be avaiable.

LesD
Research Names -- Smithson, Dickinson, Craven, Christian, Perry, Hayes, Law, Shaw


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Re: John Daintry
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 May 10 23:10 BST (UK) »
Not to worry Les,
next time I'm in the Records Office I'll see what I can find out for you. Is that your tree on Ancestry with JD in?

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Shepherd, Moran, Bath, Keating, Putt - Chester
Trussell - Flint / West Bromwich
Hughes - Flint / Oakenholt
Challinor / Chaloner - Chester / Wirral / Hawarden / Holt
Reynolds - Chester
Edwards - Rossett / Pulford
Strange - Chester / Shropshire
Bayliss - Rossett / Allington / Pulford

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Re: John Daintry
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 16 May 10 11:19 BST (UK) »
Hiya Les.....there are only 3 records on this site...Cheshire records database
2 babtisms and 1 death ALL IN WYBUNBURY,CHESHIRE.....abt 20 miles from Chester

www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/

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Re: John Daintry
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 20 May 10 03:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks Shep, I will have a look in Ancestry, trees are currently unavailable

Les
Research Names -- Smithson, Dickinson, Craven, Christian, Perry, Hayes, Law, Shaw

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Re: John Daintry
« Reply #7 on: Monday 24 May 10 21:34 BST (UK) »
Not to worry Les,
next time I'm in the Records Office I'll see what I can find out for you.

Les,
went to the records office today and photographed some trial records for you - watch this space!
Shepherd, Moran, Bath, Keating, Putt - Chester
Trussell - Flint / West Bromwich
Hughes - Flint / Oakenholt
Challinor / Chaloner - Chester / Wirral / Hawarden / Holt
Reynolds - Chester
Edwards - Rossett / Pulford
Strange - Chester / Shropshire
Bayliss - Rossett / Allington / Pulford

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Re: John Daintry
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 25 May 10 21:31 BST (UK) »
Well Les, good news and bad news - the bad news is not much family info but good news on trial information, so here goes.

John's first appearance in court was in the Michaelmas Quarter sessions in Nether Knutsford held on Monday the 15th October 1832. He was 13 at the time and had been committed 3 days earlier by C. Swetenham Esq. The charge was stealing a Pocket Pistol (to the value of 5 shillings aka a crown), the property of John Richardson Harlow of Sutton on the 8th October.  John pleaded Not Guilty but the jury found him Guilty.
He was sentenced to 6 weeks hard labour in Knutsford House of Correction. In addition, the first and last 14 days of the sentence were in a solitary cell and he was also to be whipped at the end of the first 14 days. All this at the age of 13!

Two years later John was back in court in the adjourned Knutsford sessions held in Chester at the Easter Quarter sessions on Wednesday the 9th April 1834.  Now aged 15 he had been committed on the 17th March by a T Grimsditch Esq. The charge was that he had in Macclesfield on the 7th December 1833 stolen a Box (value 2 pence or 2d), ten pieces of ribbon (value 10 shillings) and a further 20 yards of ribbon (value 5 shillings), this all being the property of Thomas Payne (also named as Richard on the Calendar for the Gaol which I think is incorrect.) Two other witnesses are named Phillip and Ellen Egerton. Again John pleaded Not Guilty but was found Guilty and sentenced to Transportation for 7 years.

From Chester, John would have then been transferred to Chatham in London where he would have embarked for the long voyage to New South Wales. He set sail on the 388 ton barque "Henry Tanner" on the 27th June 1834 arriving in NSW on the 26th Oct 1834.

I have a very good book on Knutsord Gaol which I can recommend - see Amazon or elsewhere http://www.anneloaderpublications.co.uk/index/90125327/index.htm

If you PM me with your email address, I will send you the photos I took of the court documents.

regards

Shep


Shepherd, Moran, Bath, Keating, Putt - Chester
Trussell - Flint / West Bromwich
Hughes - Flint / Oakenholt
Challinor / Chaloner - Chester / Wirral / Hawarden / Holt
Reynolds - Chester
Edwards - Rossett / Pulford
Strange - Chester / Shropshire
Bayliss - Rossett / Allington / Pulford