Ysceifiog - Babtism records 1780

[Hughes17]

One of my ancestor was a certain George Sennar born in 1780. According to a marriage record I have seen he was from Ysceifiog and the son of Joseph and Jane Sennar.

I would like to establish, whether or not, he was born in the parish o'r was he living in the parish at the time of his marriage in 1803 at Betws Gwerfyl Goch. Unfortunately he had passed away in January 1841, therefore doesn't appear on any census records.

Are there any other Sennars in the area?

Any information would be much appreciated.

[Rah1980]

I've checked my Ysceifiog records for the baptism and can see no Sennar's there i'm affraid and I have also checked my Nannerch, Whitford and Holywell with no success either.

Sarah

[Hughes17]

Thank you Sarah

These Sennars are a bit of a mystery. I don't suppose you have records relating to burials in the area for this period.

[Rah1980]

I do up until 1812, I'm pretty sure I had a flick through the index in all the different volumes between 1750 - 1812 and didn't spot the surname. Unfortunately pre 1750 ish the names are indexed by first name and not surname so couldn't look for the surname. If you have a specific period, event and name I can easily re check for you.

Have you tried just putting the surname into a census search to get an idea from where most of them come from? It certainly isn't a surname I've come across before - and unusual names are supposed to be easy!!!

[Hughes17]

I'm just trying a different approach - looking for any records relating to the burial of Joseph and Jane Sennar. Hoping that it would give me some confirmation that George was born in Ysceifiog. It's quite possible that the died after 1812 or they had moved on elsewhere.

George settled in Pentir Nr Bangor (Caernarvonshire) but his origins is a bit of a mystery. I'm convinced that the name Sennar has evolved from Senner which is more commonly found.

I have typed in the name Sennar in on Ancestry and every Sennar leads back to George Sennar.

Thanks again for your interest and time.

[maidmarion]

Hi
Although you may think unusual names would be easier to find than the more common ones, they are also more likely to have been mistranscribed.

Try Names from Clwyd at this link 
http://www.namesfromclwyd.org.uk/
The index is excellent for the more unusual surname and its alternative spellings.

[anjay]

I have just come across your post and wondered if you could help me. I am trying to trace Margaret Sennar born 1792 who I think could be a sister to George. Margaret married William Williams.

[Hughes17]

I have just come across your post and wondered if you could help me. I am trying to trace Margaret Sennar born 1792 who I think could be a sister to George. Margaret married William Williams.

This is very interesting. I have no knowledge about George's sibblings. However, George did have a daughter named Margaret born 1810, who also married a certain William Williams in 1827.

What information do you have about your Margaret? Where did she live? Does she appear on any of the census? Did she have any children named George or Joseph?

Sorry - I seem to have more questions than answers for you!!

Dylan

[despair]

I can see a sort of anomaly re Margaret Sennar in the 1841 census but not one that is obviously resolved by (another?) Margaret Sennar born 1792.
The census has Margaret Sennar(born 1811-see below),yet she is supposed to have married William Williams in 1827.The possible explanation is that William has died and she has reverted to her maiden name.There are two Williams' in the same household but I can only attribute George to William Williams and Margaret in 1828(together with John in 1830).There is possibly some name reversion/revision later as the George Sennar details in 1851 look very like George Williams in 1841.

For completeness here is my construction of the Sennar family based almost entirely on FamilySearch data.(You probably have this but I can't access Ancestry trees to see if it is there.Family Search pedigree only seems to link four of the births)

Parents:George Sennar and Jane Wynne
Jane is given as born Llangwm in the most readable original census(1851) which would fit with the Bettws Gwerfil Goch marriage(1803)

Children
John-1803 Bettws- marries Ann Thomas 1827
Margaret-1805 Bangor-marries William Williams 1827
Anne-1808 Bangor-marries Robert Williams 1836
William-1811 Bangor-marries Mary Roberts 1852
Joseph-1813 Bangor- marries Mary Thomas 1846
Mary-185 Bangor- marries Thomas Hughes 1834
Elizabeth-1818 Bangor- marries John Roberts or John Jones 1839
Robert-1821 Bangor-marries Mary Ann (?) circa 1867(Durham area)

Regards
Roger