Author Topic: Sutherlands in The Harrow, Ballyhaddock, Co. Wexford- HELP NEEDED  (Read 8049 times)

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Re: Sutherlands in The Harrow, Ballyhaddock, Co. Wexford- HELP NEEDED
« Reply #27 on: Friday 12 April 19 12:37 BST (UK) »
Patrick not Patricia, Latin for first names.

It very much depends on the priest what version of a name in Latin will be found.

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Re: Sutherlands in The Harrow, Ballyhaddock, Co. Wexford- HELP NEEDED
« Reply #28 on: Friday 12 April 19 12:48 BST (UK) »
Well you can see the glaring mistake in her sister Catherine's marriage to Christopher Keane/Kane 1899
The priest has recorded Christopher Kane's father as Laurence Donnelly and Anne Higgins on both the church record and the civil cert
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10371/5775973.pdf

Laurence Kane married Anne Higgins in 1860
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nne/

Christopher was born 1865
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03586/2322162.pdf

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Re: Sutherlands in The Harrow, Ballyhaddock, Co. Wexford- HELP NEEDED
« Reply #29 on: Friday 12 April 19 12:54 BST (UK) »
oops that should say Michael Keane/Kane

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Re: Sutherlands in The Harrow, Ballyhaddock, Co. Wexford- HELP NEEDED
« Reply #30 on: Friday 12 April 19 12:55 BST (UK) »
The informant Eliza Finnigan on another birth
William Byrne
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03397/2246171.pdf
so maybe a woman known for delivering babies rather that an official mid wife, I think they usually register a few together.


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Re: Sutherlands in The Harrow, Ballyhaddock, Co. Wexford- HELP NEEDED
« Reply #34 on: Friday 12 April 19 14:18 BST (UK) »
looks like Mary Sunderland may have had her brother John Sunderland living with them in 1898 he was the son of Michael Sunderland and Sarah Brien from Ballinagran,Co  Wexford
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10418/5793289.pdf

marriage 910
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633454#page/72/mode/1up

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Re: Sutherlands in The Harrow, Ballyhaddock, Co. Wexford- HELP NEEDED
« Reply #35 on: Friday 12 April 19 14:23 BST (UK) »
Ooh, you've beaten me to it and just solved another mystery (see below)!!


Thanks Sinann and Daithi, I guess there could have been a little bit too much red wine on the day but they certainly dont make it easy for us! That's interesting about Cathrine Murphy, I cant seem to find a birth cert for her but I'll have a proper look later. The funny thing is when I looked back again at the birth cert for James Keane I noticed that my Great Uncle, Peter Kelly was above them! Which is brilliant, because, I was just about to throw a spanner into the works, i.e. there is another Sunderland in the family tree! I wasn't sure if they were connected but I'm pretty certain now, thanks to you guys, you are wizards!! I'll try and explain,

Peter Kelly's parents were Peter Kelly and Mary Murray from Marlay, but Peter Kelly Snr was Mary Murray's second husband because she was previously married to a John Sunderland (1898) but John died a year later. Mary Murray (or Sunderland as the marriage cert says) then married Peter Kelly in 1903 in Rathfarnham.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01561/1630405.pdf

I also noticed a Bridget Byrne from Ballyboden on the Catherine and Michael Keane marriage cert who may have previously been a Kelly as that's where some of them lived at that time.

Finally, it's all starting to come together! Thanks so much for all your help, this one was tricky! :)