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Re: Winifred Roberts
« Reply #18 on: Friday 02 July 10 12:52 BST (UK) »
It's nearly three weeks now since I ordered Winifreds birth certificat from GRO.
I now believe that she was born in West Ham, Essex v4a p254.
The nearest guess I have to her father is James Edward Roberts married either Annie Arnold
16 August 1891 or Emily Smith 6 August 1893 in Walthamstow Essex.
The 1911 census doesn't recognise either Winifred or James.
Today 2nd July I've finally received a certificate from GRO. As expected it is the wrong one.
I think i'll give up.
Anyway this thread seems to have run it's course and can be removed.
Thanks to everone for trying to help.
Joughin
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Re: Winifred Roberts
« Reply #19 on: Friday 02 July 10 13:23 BST (UK) »
Have you investigated whether she was part of the Roberts family who in 1901 were in Bromley St Leonards, Poplar (RG13/350/138/6)? The head of that family was a James Edward Roberts who died in Mar qtr 1908 aged 44.

He seems to have been a commercial traveller in 1901, however - not a licensed victualler.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Winifred Roberts
« Reply #20 on: Friday 02 July 10 13:52 BST (UK) »
I have a James Edward who married Minnie Cross or Mary Ann Chaplin in 1890 (1c 727) in Poplar and appears to be the same who died 1908 (1c 335) in Poplar, But how can I make a connection with him when I can't even find my own mothers birth.?
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Re: Winifred Roberts
« Reply #21 on: Friday 02 July 10 14:00 BST (UK) »
James appears to have married Mary Ann Elizabeth Chaplin (16 Feb 1890, Bromley St Leonard).

She's Mary A E in the 1901 Roberts household I mentioned above, and there's a Chaplin in the household.

Have you looked for her as a widow in 1911 to see whether she has a daughter Winifred?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Winifred Roberts
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 03 July 10 09:45 BST (UK) »
I have at long last received a birth cert from GRO. As expected it is the wrong one.
The only one I haven't tried on Findmypast  was born in St.Pancras district but i've run out of credit again.
There always seems to be an uncertainty whether this refers to north London or a district of Newington south London.
Joughin
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Re: Winifred Roberts
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 03 July 10 09:48 BST (UK) »
Reffering to James Roberts, I have a copy of a birth cert between Mary Ann and James dated 1890and in Bromley.
I cannot find either of them in the 1901 or 1911 census.
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