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Re: Winifred Roberts
« Reply #9 on: Friday 11 June 10 13:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks CaroleW and Mort29 for the interest.
I checked the 1911 census a long time ago and they sent me on a false trail.Until recently I presumed that the Winifred born 1909 in Walworth was the one but I now know that this is wrong. Perhaps she was born at an earlier date. The Walter James Joughin she married was born in 1898. She had no middle name that I am aware of.
I haven't found any concrete evidence of her on freeBMD, but the Wantage one is worth a further look.
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Re: Winifred Roberts
« Reply #10 on: Friday 11 June 10 13:47 BST (UK) »
Was she 19 on the marriage cert hence birthyear around 1909 so Walter was about 10 or 11 years older than her
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Re: Winifred Roberts
« Reply #11 on: Friday 11 June 10 13:55 BST (UK) »
Marriage witnesses all accounted for?

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Re: Winifred Roberts
« Reply #12 on: Friday 11 June 10 14:01 BST (UK) »
Yes she was 19 at time of marriage.
I notice an error of mine. The death of her father is shown as before Winifred's marriage so could be any time up to 1928.
I've looked again at freeBMD and theonly likely looking ones ar March 1909 West Ham or September 1909 Westham or Lambeth.
I have applied to GRO for a birth certificate but I think they will send me the wrong one again. Also it now takes over two weeks to arrive.
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Re: Winifred Roberts
« Reply #13 on: Friday 11 June 10 14:04 BST (UK) »
.... and marriage witnesses?

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Re: Winifred Roberts
« Reply #14 on: Friday 11 June 10 14:16 BST (UK) »
Aunt Annie and her husband were witnesses. Both long dead. Haven't found any of there family yet.
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Re: Winifred Roberts
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 12 June 10 11:33 BST (UK) »
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I have applied to GRO for a birth certificate but I think they will send me the wrong one again. Also it now takes over two weeks to arrive.

I've recently found that certs are taking about 3 days from ordering to arrival.  Don't know why you think they  take two weeks, that was what happened just before the price went up.  My guess is that far fewer people are now ordering, so they get the certs out much quicker.

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Re: Winifred Roberts
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 12 June 10 13:35 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Do you have any info that Winifred was born in Peckham other than she was married there?
WW1 would have caused alot of people to move, her father might have been in the army and his family could have moved with him?

This looks like the reference for her divorce,

http://www.rootschat.com/links/08w2/

does anone know what info they would have, maybe her DOB?


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Re: Winifred Roberts
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 12 June 10 19:00 BST (UK) »
It's nearly three weeks now since I ordered Winifreds birth certificat from GRO.
I now believe that she was born in West Ham, Essex v4a p254.
The nearest guess I have to her father is James Edward Roberts married either Annie Arnold
16 August 1891 or Emily Smith 6 August 1893 in Walthamstow Essex.
The 1911 census doesn't recognise either Winifred or James.
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