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Offline RobbityBob

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Re: Convict James HOWARTH
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 29 June 14 10:14 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for info on James Howarth also. He's my wifes ggg.graandfather.
Convicted 11.1.1821 and sentenced to 7 yrs in Van Diemens Land.
Departed Nov 1821 on Phoenix
Arrived 20 May 1822
Married (Mary) Ann Cadd 18.1.1836 (verified) at Penitentiary Chapel, Hobart

I want to confirm the DOB and DOD. So far I have
DOB Jan 1794 not verified
DOD 5.6.1884 not verified
I'm also looking for info on these other facts:
Possible former marriage in England?
Possible other children?
Parents names?

Thanks
Rob

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Re: Convict James HOWARTH
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 29 June 14 12:44 BST (UK) »
Hi
All the information you have in the first part  is the same as what I have. I am sorry I can't verified his English family.
JEREMIAH HOLY,
SWINNERTON, AH TUE, STROGLER, BOCK, ACCOLA, CLARE, CASTLE, OWEN,SCHAECHE,ROBINSON,JONES,SMITH,CLARKE,BARRY,SHAW,WAY,
SCHMIDT, HOLLINGWORTH,MATER,BALCOMB,ASHWELL

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Re: Convict James HOWARTH
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 29 June 14 14:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Rob,

Welcome to RootsChat

I'm also looking for info on these other facts:
Possible former marriage in England?
Possible other children?
Parents names?

James HOWARTH (Phoenix) and Ann CADD (Sir Charles Forbes) applied to marry in 1829 but were refused until he was able to prove that his former wife was deceased.

A digitised copy of the document can be seen via this index http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=5

James' conduct record states that he had a wife and two children at Norland near Halifax, and a father and mother at his native place, Ros(s)endale Lancaster.  It is not clear to me if "a weaver" refers to James or his father.

James' conduct record
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON31-1-18,172,140,L,80

Ann's conduct record
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON40-1-1,380,276,S,80

In 1836 a James HOWARTH and Mary Ann CADD married at Hobart, and the aim would be to show that these two events, 7 years apart, involved the same couple.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-35347-2676-67

I haven't been able to find a copy of James' death cert amongst the family trees I see posted online but you can pay for it and download online on the Vic registry's website and it may provide enough family info (place of marriage, name of wife and children, birthplace) to tie it all together.  I can see from the death index that his parents are not named on the certificate.

Finding the correct baptism and marriage for James will likely have to be a best guess during that time period but the parish registers for the Rossendale area would be a good place to start to look for a baptism and burial/death of his parents after 1821.

If his wife was living in Norland, you may find that there is a record of her seeking parish relief if she was left without support.  You may also find baptisms for their children, depending on how long they were living there.

Debra  :)



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Re: Convict James HOWARTH
« Reply #12 on: Monday 30 June 14 03:07 BST (UK) »
Thankyou Debra for your prompt post. I hadnt seen those sources before so that fills in quite a bit more detail for me.
I'm new at this and enjoying the hunt! Even if others like yourself are doing some heavy lifting for me.
Thanks again.