John Mirton/Murton of Elsdon?

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And now back to the Murton family.  There's a lot about them that make me uncertain - huge gaps between children and over 20 years of childbearing (not unheard of but enough to be wary).

I have also found an entry in Longhorsley for baptism of John Morton or Scott giving parents John Morton and Isabel Scott - I think this implies that they were not married at the time and starts the family off in 1776 (baptism date 27/9/1776).  Then there's Isabel baptised in Hebron to apparently the same parents in 1798!

Where did you get the Isabel Burn name from?

Christine

[nataz]

Ok didnt know about the John of 1776, our John was defo born around 1790ish according to the 1871 census which puts him at 80yrs. So hes probably the John later baptised in 1794.

Ive looked for deaths of children and second marriages but cant find a thing. Isabel Burn was the name of the wife in Elsdon 1779 (I think!)

Its seems obvious that there was a lot of Murton or Morton activity in and around Morpeth and Newcastle at that time, its just a bit of a mess at working out which set is ours. Annoyingly John married his wife Ann around 1833 so before certificates and therefore no father details.

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You're right - there are a lot of Murtons (various spellings) in Morpeth alone.

If you're confident that you have the right John on the census where does he say he was born and is it consistant through 1861 and 1851 as well?

Christine

[nataz]

Yeah Im sure hes the right one, the correct occupation and family follows through. I think his place of birth was recorded as Durahm or Bedlington and later Sheep Wash.

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Until about 1845 Bedlington was one of the areas within Northumberland belonging to County Durham - this often confuses the unwary!

Maybe a quick look at Elsdon records this Wednesday - unless you have come up with any more leads elsewhere?

Christine

[nataz]

Apart from the possible marriage of John Morton and Isabel Scott sometime in the late 1770s I havent found any other information. No idea where the couple were married but I imagine somewhere round Hebron/Morpeth.

John Murtons parents certainly seem to be a John and Isabel (according to Family Search and your results), but which Isabel and where they were both from Ive got no idea.

Thank you for all your help

Natalie

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Hi Natalie

I’m not sure whether I’m adding to the confusion but this is the full entry for the 1798 baptism in Hebron

Isabel Murton born June 6th, Baptised July 1, 5th daughter of John Murton of Hebburn native of the parish of Tranwell Morpeth by his wife Isabel Scott native of  Cartington in the parish of Rothbury.

I searched back through the previous 10 years of baptisms and there is no sign of daughters 1 - 4 or any sons so there is nothing to eliminate them from your search.  They could have moved from the Bedlington area between 1795 and 1798.

Christine

[nataz]

OK very confusing indeed!

Would John Murton have had a similar thing recorded for his birth in 1791-4? If he does that might give us more information to go on.

Natalie

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Alas no, there isn't that kind of detail on John's entry - I'd have mentioned it if it had been there.  All it said was that he had a twin brother called Andrew.

Christine