Kathleen Byrne's marraige in India, 1923

[Tintern]

Hattie1966 and otisdiamond: very interested to find this discussion belatedly. I am not a genealogist but an archaeologist, and my interest is in quite a famous sculpture once owned by Francis Wylie and now in the British Museum. It's a Gandharan relief evidently acquired by Francis when a junior civil servant in what was the North-West Frontier. It's famous because, although Buddhist, it shows what Europeans would recognize as the myth of the Trojan Horse. The British Museum's information was partly derived from Francis's son, Verner, who would be your uncle? father? I would be very interested to hear if there is still any family memory about the sculpture. Here is the BM's information: http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=223566&partId=1&images=true

[Hattie1966]

Verner was my father, he died in 2012 - i will find out if my uncle knows anything and come back to you.

[Tintern]

Thank you so much. I would be fascinated to know if you find out anything. Feel free to reply offline if you prefer. My email and details are on my webpage:
http://www.carc.ox.ac.uk/people/stewart.htm
Peter

[Cruachan]

I am related on my Mother's side to the Wylie, Hyde, and Verner families. Thomas Verner (c1795-1875) was my great great grandfather, as was Francis Hyde (1780-1834). David Wylie (c1853-1893) was the husband of my great aunt Margaret Hyde (1857-1925).

Does anyone have information on the parents of Sir Francis Wylie. I believe his Father to have been a David Wylie of Derryfubble in County Tyrone but have been unable to establish if this is the same David Wylie.

Also, there is obviously a strong connection between Sir Francis and the Verner family as one of his sons bore that name. Does anyone have any information on that connection?

Any details will be much appreciated.

[Tintern]

If you go to this website and scroll down to 14th Sept 1849 you will fine a Wylie-Verner marriage which I assume to be the origin of the connection between the families -- but I have no specific knowledge of the family tree and actual descendants might know better...

[Tintern]

PS sorry - the website I mentioned is:
http://www.cotyroneireland.com/marriages/clonfeacle.html

[Cruachan]

Tintern, many thanks for that. I found that I did have that record but it then led me to the actual record of the birth of Sir Francis Verner Wylie on 9th August 1891 which reveals that his Mother was Margaret Hyde whose sister Lydia was my grandmother. This record can be seen at https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/search/birth.

It seems that the Verners were not in Sir Francis's direct ancestry but were a little more distantly connected. As the Wylie and Verner families lived in the same small area of County Tyrone where the Verners were major landowners I wonder if the latter perhaps were benefactors of the Wylies, who were small farmers, and maybe aided them with the cost of the education of their son which led him to positions of distinction in later life. This might be the reason that the Verner name appears so often in the Wylie family.