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Kathleen Byrne's marraige in India, 1923
« on: Sunday 06 June 10 12:42 BST (UK) »
Kathleen Mary Byrne, born 1899 in Ireland m Francis Verner Wylie in Bombay in 1923, according to familysearch.

Kathleen was from Dublin and her family was well-to-do. She is shown in the 1911 Dublin census living with her parents but I cannot identify her on any shipping records for a journey to India after that time. No-one else in the family ended up in India and there is no suggestion that her parents lived in India during the 1911 - 1923 period. (Her father was Dublin's coroner so easily traceable through newspaper reports throughout the years).

So, my questions:
1. Can anyone spot her travelling to India before her marraige? I've found her in passenger lists after her marraige but that doesn't help!
2. Would it be normal or likely for other family members to make the journey to India for the wedding?
3. If she went alone  -- why would a well-bred unmarried girl go to India alone in those days? I don't think she would have been employed as a governess or anything, she was from the employing class rather than the employed!

I realise that any answers to 2 and 3 will be conjecture but I'd be interested in any ideas!

Cheers  :)

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Re: Kathleen Byrne's marraige in India, 1923
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 June 10 13:13 BST (UK) »
Sir Francis Verner Wylie studied at Trinity College Dublin 1909-1915 http://www.upgovernor.nic.in/wyliebio.htm
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Kathleen Byrne's marraige in India, 1923
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 June 10 13:16 BST (UK) »
Their engagement was announced in The Times of February 6 1923, page 13
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Re: Kathleen Byrne's marraige in India, 1923
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 June 10 18:13 BST (UK) »
Thankyou, Shaun - I don't currently have access to the newspapers archives without taking out another sub -- are you able to give any further detail about the engagement announcement?

thanks :)
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Re: Kathleen Byrne's marraige in India, 1923
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 June 10 18:23 BST (UK) »
Engagement announced between Francis Verner Wylie ICS Indian Political Dept, younger son of late David Wylie and Mrs Wylie, Derryfubble, Moy, Co. Tyrone & Kathleen, younger daughter of Louis A Byrne FRCS and Mrs Byrne 40 Merrion Square

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Re: Kathleen Byrne's marraige in India, 1923
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 June 10 23:51 BST (UK) »
A couple more interesting facts about Francis Verner Wylie :-

He received his Knighthood from the King on May 12 1938 and, on September  8 1948, was appointed Government Director of the Suez Canal Company.

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Re: Kathleen Byrne's marraige in India, 1923
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 June 10 08:35 BST (UK) »
I've found potted histories of him, and a photo. He's my friend's great-uncle by marraige and she knew that he was something "big in India" and now we know how big!

With his and Kathleen's families both being Irish, I assumed they met in Ireland but having found the wedding registration in Bombay throws this theory into question. And we have no idea when Kathleen went to India for the first time.
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Re: Kathleen Byrne's marraige in India, 1923
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 November 10 20:15 GMT (UK) »
they were my grandparents

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Re: Kathleen Byrne's marraige in India, 1923
« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 November 10 20:17 GMT (UK) »
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