Michael SMITH Brushy Creek

[norag]

Oh yes I have a further inquiry. My father, Jim Smith, had an aunt  Auntie Bell. She lived in Lilydale. Married to a butcher, I think. They had land out of Lilydale and a house up on a hill you could see from the road. I have an idea she carried on the business after he died. But not sure of any of that.  She was a lovely, kind and generous person. I wonder if anyone remembers her.

problem is I do not remember the surname.  was she married to one of those orphans? for example 

Michael died in West m\Melbourne 1902 or 3  Thomas died  as a baby  My dad was James so that only leaves  John, Edward or Patrick .

Maybe she was a  smith  herself and married person unknown.

I just thought someone might remember her

[judb]

No need to apologise Cando.  I also thought it would be the newer area.  Why don't they put the dates on their website -you'd think it would save them a lot of time in answering queries.

Pleased we seem to have found them.   

Judith

[norag]

I am wondering how i send a photo to rootschat?   I can send an email but not sure how to send to a www.
norag

[norag]

Dear Cando and others
You ask if I have all the answers now. Well I would love to take the next step back and try to trace the family bach to Co Clare or wherever but it will become more difficult . As you say, certificates are the answer.

Must leave it for now as Work calls unfortunately. 

 Can't seem to get the image posted I can find it but cant send it. Appingirl may be able to do it for me.  Thasnks as always   Norag

[cando]

I don't like your hopes of finding information in Ireland.  Your need to know the townland and parish of the county and with a name like SMITH.  Sorry to sound so pessimistic.  You are seeking records prior to civil registration and many of their records were destroyed by fire in 1922.

http://www.groireland.ie/history.htm
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/

Instructions on how to upload a photo to rootschat -
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,130922.0.html

Cheers
Cando

[cando]

Oh yes I have a further inquiry. My father, Jim Smith, had an aunt  Auntie Bell. She lived in Lilydale. Married to a butcher, I think. They had land out of Lilydale and a house up on a hill you could see from the road. I have an idea she carried on the business after he died. But not sure of any of that.  She was a lovely, kind and generous person. I wonder if anyone remembers her.

problem is I do not remember the surname.  was she married to one of those orphans? for example 

Maybe she was a  smith  herself and married person unknown.

I just thought someone might remember her

We need a little more information to help with this one.

Michael died in West m\Melbourne 1902 or 3  Thomas died  as a baby  My dad was James so that only leaves  John, Edward or Patrick .

Who is this then?  Perhaps you need either Michael's or Mary's death certificate to actually see how many children there were.

SMITH Joseph Thomas
Father Smith Michael  Mother Mary McNAMARA
34 years  at Lilydale  1906  Reg#5974

Row 3 seems to be in the Roman Catholic Section

SMITH Joseph   
Lilydale Lawn Cemetery   Row 3   77

You can purchase an image of a cert online and immediately download for $17.50
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

Cando

[LoganH]

So this would be James' family. (just a side branch) 

James Smith married Mary Ann KELLY ,Ldale (place of birth - possibly Lilydale)  in 1891 (#5366)
James Michael SMITH born to James SMITH and Mary Ann KELLY Healsville in 1892 (#23945)
Irene May SMITH born to James SMITH and Mary Ann KELLY at Healesville 1894 (#21362)
Margaret Mary SMITH born to James SMITH and Mary Ann KELLY at Warburton in 1896 (#31663) died age 7 at Healesville in 1903 (#9927)

Good on you Cando - you found where Michael was buried, as suspected Lilydale. 

have learnt  never assume = makes an a** out of u and me. 

[cando]

These would be norag's direct line.

Mary Ann KELLY was born Healesville according to the marriage registration

KELLY Mary Ann
Father Michael  Mother Isabella MALONEY
At Healesville  1872  Reg#23750

But perhaps norag has all this information.

Cando

[cando]

Michael SMITH born, father Michael, mother Mary MCNAMARA,birth place Evel (Evelyn) in 1863 (#8731)

A possibility

Death
SMITH Michael
Father Smith Michael  Mother Mary UNKNOWN
43 years at Melbourne East  1903  Reg#6464

Cando