Looking for John Hodgkinson b. 17 Sept 1821 "Wolwich"

[BostonRott]

This is what I know of the marriage:
John Hodgkinson was born at Wolwich near London, Sept 17, 1821.
He married Elizabeth Hay, b. 5 Mar 1823 in "Frickley (?Brickley), near Crich (?Erich) in Derbyshire."   

They were married on 30 Nov 1845.

They were married in England before they immigrated.

This is from a relative's transcription of the John Hodgkinson/Elizabeth Hay family Bible.   

[BostonRott]

One other thing I found that might help in locating this family:

there was a card in the Bible (I have not seen it), with a picture of a church and is labelled "The Catholic church of Nottingham."

Inside the card, written to John Hodgkinson by his "Aunt Eliza and Uncle Thomas," it mentions that the church is on Tollhouse hill, "opposite Vernon street, where we used to live."   (I assume this to be the former residence of "Aunt Eliza & Uncle Thomas" .... but could possibly be a former residence of one of John's parents as a child....and whichever is related by blood, Aunt Eliza or Uncle Thomas."

In Googling this info, I found this cathedral:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nottingham_Cathedral

So this is where possibly one of John's parents grew up?   Dunno........i'm grasping at straws here.

Gretchen

[BostonRott]

Just wondering if you now have some marriage details which might help in progressing with the origins of John HODGKINSON

Casalguidi

I finally have the marriage certificate.

John Hodgkinson's father was William Hodgkinson, a framework knitter.  I believe this family to have been in the Woolwich area, based on a family history typed in 1976.

The marriage of John Hodgkinson and Elizabeth Hey occured in the Parish of Radford, and they were both living in Kensington at the time of marriage.

I've tried Googling "William Hodgkinson" Woolwich and come up with nothing.

[PrueM]

Hi BostonRott 

There is a John HODGKINSON in the 1841 census in Radford, Nottinghamshire, which could be him. His age is given as 15, but he could have been 15-19 as ages of those over 15 in that census were rounded down to the nearest 5. He was not born in the county, but I cannot make out his occupation.

I think his occupation is "Cotton Factory", so that would fit with his father being a FWK.  John appears to be on his own in a house with another family, perhaps as a boarder or lodger (he's shown as being his own household).

Re. John's birthplace - I too thought Woolwich sounded like the most obvious place near to London that would fit with the word "Wolrich".  It used to be in the county of Kent, so maybe a good bet would be to place a lookup enquiry on the Kent board, to see if anyone can spot his baptism.

Re. Elizabeth's birthplace:  Crich is a parish in Derbyshire.  There is a placed named Fritchley that is within the parish:
(http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/gazplace?CCC=DBY,GR=SK350530,PLACE=FRITCHLEY)

Cheers
Prue

[BostonRott]

Thank you kindly, Prue!

I will put a request in over on the Kent board.  Your time and help are most appreciated. 

Gretchen

[casalguidi]

John Hodgkinson's father was William Hodgkinson, a framework knitter.  I believe this family to have been in the Woolwich area, based on a family history typed in 1976.

Is there any mention of "Woolwich" other than John's birthplace?  Problem is there wouldn't have been framework knitters in Kent ............. the factories would be in the north of the country.  If somebody from the north was in Woolwich at any time then the most likely reason would be that they were in the army at some point thus in Woolwich temporarily

Did John and Elizabeth marry in a parish church/registry office/non-conformist chapel?
Who were the witnesses to the wedding?

Casalguidi

[BostonRott]

No, the only mention of his birth is in the old history written by my great aunt in 1976.  I think there is a family Bible somewhere that she got this info from, but I haven't yet located it.

John and Elizabeth were married in "the Parish Church in the Parish of Radford in the county of Nottingham."

Both John and Elizabeth are listed as living in Kensington at the time of their marriage.   It looks as though John's profession at the time was Cotton spinner, or maybe both were cotton spinners?   The words "Cotton spinner" are written the full length of the box , where as the rest of the info is neatly on its own lines (his and hers).

William Hodgkinson is a "framework spinner"  and Joseph Kay is a cotton spinner. (The fathers)

Elizabeth was born "in Fritchley, near Crich."  I have found online records of Crich parish, and found Hay and Hey, as well as a few Key/Kay listings.   

Witnesses were John Charles and Elizabeth Charles.

The minister's name is hard to read, Samuel something....surname might start with a J and ends in "ell", and then following his name is ", K ........." again, unreadable.  Maybe  title or suffix?  "K _ in" ??  Dunno, no idea what it should say, so can't begin to guess.

The only other line is:
"Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church, _________________ by me, ___________

I think the first line says "by Bannes" or "by Banus"   

I have it scanned, if you wish to see it, I can email you the scan.

Gretchen

[PrueM]

The words on that last line will be "by Banns"