1851 census or directory look up Richmond : Van Toll

[martianuk]

Hi, can anyone find a van Toll - Henry or otherwise - in the Richmond area? Possibly classed as Henry Van with a last name of Toll.

  Thank you!

[Bryant]

Martian1

Their appears to be no VAN TOLL's in Surrey 1841 at all............plenty of Van this and Van that but no Van Toll's or anything like it.
Now ....... if you want a Van or you want a Toll thats a completely different story

Bryant

[martianuk]

Thanks Bryant! I know - if only the Van's and Toll's had got together a little more frequently, there would be a wealth of them!!

I actually found my Van Toll man in 1851 - he was on honeymoon at the time, in Bath. That's not to say that he isn't in a directory somewhere for the same time period. One day.... one day....he'll pop up in something!

Kind regards, Kirsty

[KenToll]

Not sure if we've been in contact before, but I've done a little research on the Van TOLLs as part of my TOLL one-name Study...

Kind Regards,

Ken Toll
www.one-name.org/profiles/toll.html

[KenToll]

Kirsty,

I should of course have mentioned that the Van TOLLs are in 58 Whitton Road, Twickenham, when John TOLL made his 1913 will.  His family had already moved  to Worthing on the Sussex Coast....

In 1900 his engineering business in Twickenham (Burford Van Toll & Co) was dissovled.

More data available if required...

Ken
 

[Bryant]

This post is getting on a bit.........do you know any more?

Your Henry Van Toll.........when was he born and where? does he have parents/siblings? have you any info from any certs?

I can see a Helen Van Tole aged 33 (unm) born Germany living as a housekeeper at 9 Parliament Street, Westminster in the census of 1861

Regards
Bryant

[KenToll]

The Van TOLLs aren't actually mine.
They're people I've researched as part of my TOLL One-Name Study.

I didn't actually say I'd got data on a Henry Van TOLL.
I actually said I'd got data on John (Johannes) Van TOLL, the motor engineer of Twickenham.

In the 1901 Census Johannes Van TOLL, aged 40, claimed to be born in Holland
(RG13/1187 fo 123b).

I mentioned him because he was in Twickenham, only a mile or two from Richmond, where the original enquiry was.

Whilst he has a wife and children, I've seen no evidence of sibblings or parents.

Kind Regards,

Ken

[Bryant]

Sorry Ken, and welcome to rootschat.......reply 5 was addressed to Kirsty (martian1) the lady whose post it is.......Kirsty was last online on Oct 13th

Hi, can anyone find a van Toll - Henry or otherwise - in the Richmond area? Possibly classed as Henry Van with a last name of Toll.

  Thank you!

Regards
Bryant

[martianuk]

Hi Ken,

We corresponded a lot a couple of years ago about the Van Tolls. Remember all that talk with a Martin Van Toll in Holland and his dedicated research into the Van Toll name? You were off to Bedfordshire or Berkshire to track down some of them and attend a conference - if I remember correctly.

Hope all's well!!

Kirsty (in Michigan, U.S.)