Thomas Musgrave. Death help please. Pennsylvania.

[coombs]

I have downloaded the form and filled it out. As I live in the UK I would probably have to send it by air mail to America.

[coombs]

Talking of this I have been quite busy and have forgot to send off for the death cert so will need to do that to get closure on his death date. I need to get the ball rolling and send the application form off.

[johnnyboy]

Talking of this I have been quite busy and have forgot to send off for the death cert so will need to do that to get closure on his death date. I need to get the ball rolling and send the application form off.

Hi Ben: No time like the present to send off to Pennsylvania for Thomas' certificate.

Incidentally, I had a look today at the 1900 census page for Thomas, his daughter Margaret, her husband, Robert, etc. I had not noticed that William Sutherland, Robert's brother was living with them. Have you investigated what became of him?

Regards,
John 

[coombs]

Hi Johnny.

No not yet. But I am sure Thomas Musgrave died inbetween January 1906 and April 1910. So he was around 80 when he died.

Ben

[johnnyboy]

Hi Ben: Sorry if I was unclear in my last reply. I was wondering if you had investigated what became of William Sutherland. I checked for William in the index for the 1910 U.S. census but couldn't found any sign of him.

I also noticed from the 1900 census that Robert Sutherland had filed a Declaration of Intention for naturalization. The Prothonotary's office in Washington County has a card index of naturalizations in Washington County until 1906. I may be in Pennsylvania in the next few weeks--if it ever stops raining in the eastern U.S.--and will try to check the card index. There's a chance that Robert Sutherland filed his Declaration in Washington County, rather than in Allegheny County.

Even though Robert and William Sutherland are a bit tangential to the search for Thomas Musgrave, you never know where the trail of one or another person will lead.

Regards,
John 

[coombs]

Hi Johnnyboy.

The death certificate of Thomas Musgrave will no doubt list his burial place confirming whether he was buried at RRC. If he was still alive in December 1907 he'd have had his 80th birthday that month. He was baptised 23 December 1827 and the US census says he was born Dec 1827 England so I guess he was born 1=15 December 1827. Some of his younger siblings were baptised at a church different to his baptism church and the church some of his siblings were baptised at lists dates of births and they were all baptised at around 15-20 days old so Thomas was probably born in the first week of December 1827. The death cert might list his date of birth.

Ben

[coombs]

Hi

I am coming to America in September but only to Chicago. Just hundreds of miles from Allegheny, PA where my ancestor is buried.

Johnnyboy I did hear that there is a 4 month wait until I get a death cert for Thomas if I apply. Is a bit offputting. I may just have to hire a researcher to try and find an obituary or wait until Ancestry put PA deaths online for 1906 onwards.

Ben

[johnnyboy]

Hi Ben: Glad you're getting to the U.S.--if not to Pennsylvania. I might be able to get some clarification on how long it will take to get a death certificate in Pennsylvania. I'll try this week if I can and post it here or send you a PM.

John 

[coombs]

I shall be in America for 5 days and am wondering if I could do something to get the cert whilst over there by phone or something to make it easier to send it to the UK.