Thomas Musgrave. Death help please. Pennsylvania.

[coombs]

Hi

My 3xgreat grandfather Thomas Musgrave emigrated from Durham, England to America in September 1886 after his wife died the previous year. He left with his daughter Margaret Musgrave. Before I found he had emigrated I searched for years for a death in England to no avail and ruled out all possible ones of his age group. I then found out he was in America in 1900.

Thomas is on the 1900 US census living with son in law Robert Sutherland and his wife Elizabeth in North Fayette, Allegheny, Pennsylvania aged 72, born December 1827, England. Thomas was baptised 23rd December 1827 in Darlington, Durham, England son of Thomas and Jane Musgrave. This is the last I see of him. Elizabeth Sutherland was Thomas's daughter born April 1852 as Elizabeth Musgrave.

He is not on the 1910 census and his daughter is living with her married daughter Mary Saix in Washington, PA, whom she was with in 1900. I assume Thomas was dead by the 1910 US census.

It is his death that I am now after. If anyone could help me find it I would be very grateful.

Ben

[*Sandra*]

I have sent a message to a fellow Rootschatter for you, asking for a look up in Allegheny County.  Hopefully he will reply on this thread.  Meanwhile, I wish you the best of luck with this last piece of your jig-saw.

Regards.
 

[coombs]

Thanks for that.

[*Sandra*]

Hi Ben.

This was roughly the reply I received with regard to the enquiry on Thomas Musgrave:-

His death is registered at the Courthouse in Allegheny County. The contact had not been there for a while however the pagenweb project tells where to send for records after 1906 -  Dept of Vital Statistics and before 1906 a request can be sent to the Registrar of Wills with as much info as you have.  If Thomas died before 1906 it will just be a journal entry date and place of death.

Sorry, this was'nt more positive news for you but still gives a glimmer of hope to you finding that final piece of the jig-saw.

Regards 

[coombs]

Hi

Thanks.

What if he didn't leave a will though? Will his death still be mentioned? Also what about newspaper obituaries and burial records? I am sure they will give info if he died before January 1906.

Thomas, please reveal your date of death.  I know you have been dead about 105 years but I am a genealogy addict. 

Ben

[*Sandra*]

Frustrating because we have no idea which side of 1906 Thomas Musgrave died.

Some information is here - up to 1905:

You could write to the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh at the address given. Looks like $5 for one search and 2/3 weeks for a reply.

http://www.clpgh.org/locations/pennsylvania/BirthDeathRecords.html

and here after 1906:

http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/genealogy_requests/14125

[coombs]

Hi Dettori.

Yes I may have to write to them to get the ball rolling. I know his daughter Elizabeth Sutherland died in August 1911 aged 59 and she is buried alongside her second husband Robert Sutherland at Robinson Run Cemetery. Some of their MI's are online on an Allegheny cemeteries website but I cannot seem to find an entry for Thomas but the list is not complete and he may been in an unmarked grave. I have a suspicion he was buried at that cemetery but that is only a suspicion due to the fact his daughter was buried there with her husband who died in 1906. Again it doesn't lead me any closer to finding his actual date of death.

Ben

[*Sandra*]

I was going to suggest RAOGK (Allegheny) who take pictures of tombstones and look up obituaries but I have just found what I think is the daughter Elizabeth and there is only a metal marker. So what are the chances of having no headstone on her fathers grave 
Would it be possible to contact the Cemetery and see if it was a family plot and perhaps Thomas is buried with daughter and her husband or even next to them. 

SUTHERLAND, Elizabeth, 1850-1911, no headstone, only a metal marker, (Photo)
(There was no photo.)

http://www.rootschat.com/links/09g9/

[coombs]

Hi

Yes it might be a good idea to contact the cemetery holders to see if there is a plot or something. I would think Thomas is buried there. If he did in an Allegheny hospital or workhouse then I would still think his family had him buried near them.

Ben