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Re: Michael Egan (b.1847)
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 June 10 08:27 BST (UK) »
He was very young to be a widower :-\

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Re: Michael Egan (b.1847)
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 June 10 08:38 BST (UK) »
Annie, yes very young.
There is also a marriage of Jane Donohoe (1879-1962) and John F Egan (1870-1953) in 1913. Their researchers also claim the Murrumburrah tombstone records, to which, I would point out the age and dates on the tombstone.  I have a photograph of that tombstone which is a shared plot and indicates the following burials:

Michael Egan  died 16 March, 1925. aged 79 years...................... (b.1847)
Jane Egan died 3rd August 1926, aged 78 years .........................(b.1848)
Bridget Egan died 18th July, 1888 aged 77...................................(b.1811)
John Egan died 28 Dec.1921 aged 51 years............................... (b.1870)
Catherine Keogh died 30 Dec.1910, aged 34 years

A Catherine Egan b.1876 in Murrumburrah married Patrick Keogh in 1910
A Catherine Egan died in 1910 in Murrumburrah as above.
Any information on this would be helpfull.

The death of Michael (79) correlates with the arrival of a Michael on the "Cheapside" (arrived Port Adelaide on 10-10-1849). The age of Bridget arriving on the same ship matches the tombstone in Cootamundra which states Bridget was 77 when she died in 1888. 
In this discussion below ("elizabethoz" item 13 and 15), there is the probable connection of this group to the Victorian lineage of Egan.

There are sufficient annomolies for those referenced on the headstone to question whether or not Michael and Jane returned to the Upper Hunter from Hartley district after the birth of Catherine in 1876. It appears there may not be the confirming evidence to link the later births in Murrumburrah to the same Michael Egan.

Thank you Debra and Annie and elizabethoz
Ashton Beck Coates Day Donoghue Egan Gleason Kelsall O'Connell Putland Ryan Stormont

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Re: Michael Egan (b.1847)
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 June 10 14:40 BST (UK) »
Do you have Michael or Bridget's death certificates?  The Bridget who arrived on the Abyssinian is listed with parents Daniel and Hannah LYNCH.  These certs might provide some clues including time lived in each state.  I have death certs which do not give parents' names on the indexes, but have full names on the certificates.

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Re: Michael EGAN (b.1847)
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 01 June 10 15:38 BST (UK) »
That is interesting and I have looked at Daniel and Hannah Lynch before without conclusion but I was discouraged. - Bridget was 39 (b.1820) and this would not match the Cootamundra tombstone, also, as Bridget's husband Patrick is deceased, it does not fit with the Informant's entry on Patrick jnr.'s birth extract  (as above) indicating he was alive in 1872 and in Australia.
There were listed additional Egan children on board the Abyssinian from Tipperary on Sept 20 1859.
i)     John aged 20 (b.1839),
ii)    Daniel aged 16 (b1843),
iii)   Michael aged 12 (b.1847),
iv)   Ann aged 9 (b,1850),
v)    Bridget aged 7 (b1852)

I do NOT have the death certificates and appreciate your recommendation that this is the way to go to clear things up.   

Paul
Ashton Beck Coates Day Donoghue Egan Gleason Kelsall O'Connell Putland Ryan Stormont


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Re: Michael EGAN (b.1847)
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 07 August 10 02:12 BST (UK) »
I am sure that the Michael Egan you are all referring to, was Michael Egan, born to John Egan and Annie Macnamara.

John and Annie had the following children,  Lawrence Mac Egan born 1804 says co. clare, Margaret Egan born 1807 co clare, Bridget Egan born 1809 co clare John Thompson Egan born 1811 Co Clare, Michael Egan born 1813 Co Clare, Married Bridget Corcoran, married in Ireland, chn in Ireland chn in Victoria, died Melbourne, Catherine Egan born 1819 co clare, Ireland, married Henry Thomasson in Adelaide, chn in Coleraine, Victoria and South Australia, Mary Jane Egan b. c 1823 Co Clare, Ireland m. Thomas Beardsworth Crompton married at coleraine, Victoria, moved to Queensland. Francis Egan b 1824 Co Clare, d. 1874 Greenwald Station m. Mary Rogers 1826-1912  No further records at this time on Michael's father and mother, John Egan and Annie Macnamara, regards, Elizabethoz

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Re: Michael EGAN (b.1847)
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 07 August 10 03:37 BST (UK) »
elizabethoz Thank You
Michael born 1847 could be son of a child of John Egan and Annie McNamara.
He would not be a direct son as there is a generation difference with their children.
Also this pedigree relates to the Egan families in Victoria, and my understanding is they were a different family lineage to Michael Egan and Jane Donohoe of the Upper Hunter, New South Wales. There could of course be some early connections.
Ashton Beck Coates Day Donoghue Egan Gleason Kelsall O'Connell Putland Ryan Stormont

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Re: Michael EGAN (b.1847)
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 07 August 10 05:39 BST (UK) »
. Michael EGAN 35, wife Bridget 38, John 5, Michael 3, Mary A (baby) arrived Port Adelaide on 10-10-1849 on Cheapside from London. (Possibly the SA branch of the EGAN name)
3. Michael arriving on Abysinnian from Tipperary on Sept 20 1859. (Possibly the QLD branch of the EGAN name)
2. I have elimated Michael Egan aged 3 arrived aboard the Harry Lorrequer, on March 14, 1851. This family settled in Victoria.

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Hi again, the above  post by Paul about Michael Egan who was  the son of john Egan and Annie Macnamara, he came out to South Australia, with his wife whose maiden name was Bridget Corcoran.  If I find any information about the Michael Egan you are looking for, I will post it on this chat, regards Elizabethoz

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Re: Michael EGAN (b.1847)
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 07 August 10 10:15 BST (UK) »
elizabethoz Thank You, I see, which post you reponded to now.

There are some correlations in the age of Bridget and Michael who arrived in Port Adelaide on the Cheapside with those referenced on the tombstone in Murrumburrah. Do you think there is any relationship between them ?

Further to information provided via the Hunter Valley history association I have determined that my great grandfather, Michael arrived with his mother, the widow Bridget Egan on 20 Sep 1859 aboard the ship "Abysinnian" which docked at both Sydney and Newcastle.
Ashton Beck Coates Day Donoghue Egan Gleason Kelsall O'Connell Putland Ryan Stormont

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Re: Michael EGAN (b.1847)
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 07 August 10 11:36 BST (UK) »
elizabethoz Thank You, I see, which post you reponded to now.

There are some correlations in the age of Bridget and Michael who arrived in Port Adelaide on the Cheapside with those referenced on the tombstone in Murrumburrah.
Do you think there is any relationship between them ?