Thomas Loveday married Elizabeth Davie s in Cardiff 1890 ( COMPLETE)

[triathlon]

Done it, may thnaks.

you could try posting on the Canada board with a link to this post to ask how to find her details

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,166.0.html

There's a poster called J.J. who takes a special interest in British Home Children.

 

[seahall]

Hi triathlon.

Thomas Herbert Loveday was buried at Kingsthorpe Cemetery
Northampton, 25 Nov 1950 aged 80.

He was noted as living at 4 Albert Street, and is buried in
Grave 18573.

Sandy

[triathlon]

Many many thanks for this info.

I checked with Northampton regisrtry office who tell me that the death is registered by his wife M E Loveday.  I can find a marriage for Thomas Henry Loveday in 1907 ( the year his wife Elixabeth died) the problem is I cannot check the spouse name for this 1907 marriage.  Nor can I find Thomas henry in the 1911 census, I have checked what I thought were the possible ones but the marriages are too long.  They would only have been married 4 years/

Am I missing something ??

Hi triathlon.

Thomas Herbert Loveday was buried at Kingsthorpe Cemetery
Northampton, 25 Nov 1950 aged 80.

He was noted as living at 4 Albert Street, and is buried in
Grave 18573.

Sandy

[seahall]

Hi again triathlon .

I think his wife would have been Elizabeth Stent at time of Marriage.

Sandy

[seahall]

OKay on the freebmd Thomas's wife is Elizabeth Stent.

Burial at Kingsthorpe Cemetery.

Mary Elizabeth Loveday 25/04/1978 died at Renny Lodge Hospital, Newport Pagnell
(of 15 Evenley Road, Northampton) aged 91, grave no. 18573

Sandy

[triathlon]

Hi

Thanks again, you are obviously a lot better at this than me.  Is the info below the 1907 marriage for Thomas Herbert Loveday  ??

If is is I'll need to contact appropriate registrar to check if on his 1907 marriage cert he gives his place of birth as Stratton St Marg. Wilts and his father as John  Loveday.

All Thomas's children from his first marriage to Elizabeth Davies following her death in 1907, were put into her families care or BARNADO, the Branados file states that Thomas was " lost sight of" , hence why I am trying to make sure I have the right one!

OKay on the freebmd possible marriage as Elizabeth, needs confirming.

Burial at Kingsthorpe Cemetery.

Mary Elizabeth Loveday 25/04/1978 died at Renny Lodge Hospital, Newport Pagnell
(of 15 Evenley Road, Northampton) aged 91, grave no. 18573

Sandy

[seahall]

HI again.

I think after reading the post from the very start that the confussion is
Thomas HERBERT Loveday not Thomas HENRY.

On the 1901 Census Thomas Herbert is with his family being born in
the Thrapston reg district in 1870/71.

Rg13/1422/St Giles Northampton Pg 1 Folio 74 Sch 4 No 10 Purser Road.

Thomas is noted as 30.

Therefore if you are tracing the family in Wales I am not sure how it can be
this one.

Sandy

[triathlon]

Thank you again for your trouble with this.

I have been 6 months at it and struggling.

Regarding Thomas, the facts I do have is his marriage cert to Elizabeth, that show him born 1867 and place of birth and father.  Confirmed on the 1901 Wales census.

You will see on the 1901 Wales census that Thomas ( no H middle name ever mentioned) and Elizabeth nee Davies have 5 children.  There is also a lodger in the house, my great Grandfather Lawrence GALVIN.  I do not know what happened in 1901 but Elizabeth went on to have 5 more children with Lawrence GALVIN ( all certificates obtained) in another address in Cardiff.
In 1907 Elizabeth died BUT was buried as a LOVEDAY ( Lawrence and her never married). 
The 5 original Loveday children were "abandoned" or something by Thomas, they were looked after by Elizabeths family and one child went to Barnados and subsequently Canada - I have all details.  2 of these children later married in 1917 and 1918 and both put father DECEASED on their marriage certs.  However there is NO DEATH recorded of a Thomas LOVEDAY between 1901 and 1918 ( I checked every UK record ) !!  Barnados in 1908 have "father lost sight of on his daughters record.   
Lots of people on the sight have tried to locate the birth cert for me and this is where the Thomas H comes from.  But no death can be found and hence I looked at a second marriage of Thomas post his wifes death in 1907.
He could of emigrated post 1901 but I can not trace that.
Lawrence my great grandfather after Elizabeth died took THEIR 5 children back to Ireland and the rest i know.  But what happened to THOMAS??  Hope this makes sense.

HI again.

I think after reading the post from the very start that the confussion is
Thomas HERBERT Loveday not Thomas HENRY.

On the 1901 Census Thomas Herbert is with his family being born in
the Thrapston reg district in 1870/71.

Rg13/1422/St Giles Northampton Pg 1 Folio 74 Sch 4 No 10 Purser Road.

Thomas is noted as 30.

Therefore if you are tracing the family in Wales I am not sure how it can be
this one.

Sandy

[triathlon]

Unbelievably I've just got some info from Barnados which links to this Martha, thank you.

Barnados have told me that A Mrs HOLLAND, the paternal grandmother of Eliza J Loveday looked after Eliza, following her mother Elizabeths death in 1907.  Mrs Holland ( Martha Loveday) handed Eliza back to Lawrence Galvin within 12 months, Galvin then placed her in the care of Barnados !

Therefore I think that Thomas is Thomas H Loveday born 1867 (Jan -Mar) in the workhouse to Martha, father not shown on birth cert!

I'm not sure how I get martha's birth and parents

On one of your threads, you mentioned a birth reg with Martha as mother. Possible marriage for Martha

Martha Loveday dec qtr 1870 Highworth vol 5a pg 36 to either John Legg or John Smith

1871 Upper Stratton, Wilts RG10/1879 folio 33 pg 35
John Smith head mar 56 farm labourer
Martha wife 24
both born Stratton St Margaret

1881 Hag Lane, Swindon RG11/2020 folio 47 pg 17
William Holland head mar 25 general labourer b. Somerset, Crudwell (?)
Martha wife 30 tailoress b. Wiltshire, Stratton
Thomas Smith son 14  plough boy ag labourer b. Stratton
John Smith son 8 b. Stratton

Looks like Martha may have 'lost' a few years on meeting a younger man.

remarriage
Martha Smith dec qtr 1881 Highworth vol 5a pg 49 with William Holland on the same page
more than one possible death reg for John Smith in Highworth that would fit.

Haven't found Thomas in 1871 as yet.