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Re: Thomas Loveday married Elizabeth Davies in Cardiff 1890
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 15 July 10 18:55 BST (UK) »
I would like to order marriage certs for Martha's marriage to William Holland  in 1881 and her marriage to John Smith in 1870.

Can anyone please advise me what is the best way of ordering the certs as I need to check that Martha's fathers name is LOVEDAY.  I cant seem to find any spouse details regrding her marriage am I using the wrong site?

Once I get her marriage cert I can then (I hope) sort out her birth cert

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Re: Thomas Loveday married Elizabeth Davies in Cardiff 1890
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 15 July 10 19:05 BST (UK) »
for bmds, use this one

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

It's easier to match spouses on it.

You need to wait for the marriage cert before you order the birth cert as you won't know if it's correct otherwise. If the father is Jonathan, I've given you the reg. The GRO don't offer a checking service any longer, so you'll need to get the certificates from the local office

certificatesatwiltshire.gov.uk
replacing at with @

On FreeBmd, click on the registration district to see which parishes are in it. The look at the bottom of the page & it should say where the registers are now, click on the place name & you'll find a list of address like this
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/regoff.html#788
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas Loveday married Elizabeth Davies in Cardiff 1890
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 15 July 10 19:11 BST (UK) »
the 1901 census shows a William Holland aged 50 in Southwick (RG13/1938 folio 24 pg 4) who may account for the 1910 death reg in Westbury as that district covers these parishes
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/westbury.html
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas Loveday married Elizabeth Davies in Cardiff 1890
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 15 July 10 19:24 BST (UK) »

Thank you again for all your work.
I ordered Thomas H Loveday birth cert today over the phone with credit card at Swindon registrars office.  Helpful people , I'll try that for the Holland marriage cert do you think.
I've just found a MIGRATION thanks again to this forun for a Thomas LOVEDAY in 1911.  222 Dec 1911 London - Sydney ORSOVA - states single male grocer.  Could this be him.  Any idea where I might get an age of this passenger?





for bmds, use this one

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

It's easier to match spouses on it.

You need to wait for the marriage cert before you order the birth cert as you won't know if it's correct otherwise. If the father is Jonathan, I've given you the reg. The GRO don't offer a checking service any longer, so you'll need to get the certificates from the local office

certificatesatwiltshire.gov.uk
replacing at with @

On FreeBmd, click on the registration district to see which parishes are in it. The look at the bottom of the page & it should say where the registers are now, click on the place name & you'll find a list of address like this
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/regoff.html#788


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Re: Thomas Loveday married Elizabeth Davies in Cardiff 1890
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 15 July 10 19:44 BST (UK) »
the age should be on the record. Doesn't seem to be in this case. This voyage is December 1911, so he should be on the 1911 census.

You could ask on the Australian board to see if they can find any record of him after his arrival. There aren't census records available, but there are electoral rolls and prents names are sometimes on bmds.

If Swindon allow you to order that way, it's fine. Not all offices do. There's no way of telling until you try.

 ;)
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas Loveday married Elizabeth Davies in Cardiff 1890
« Reply #68 on: Thursday 15 July 10 19:54 BST (UK) »

Just checked the 1911 census again but cannot find him, off to the Australia board. Thanks.


the age should be on the record. Doesn't seem to be in this case. This voyage is December 1911, so he should be on the 1911 census.

You could ask on the Australian board to see if they can find any record of him after his arrival. There aren't census records available, but there are electoral rolls and prents names are sometimes on bmds.

If Swindon allow you to order that way, it's fine. Not all offices do. There's no way of telling until you try.

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Re: Thomas Loveday married Elizabeth Davies in Cardiff 1890
« Reply #69 on: Monday 19 July 10 19:21 BST (UK) »
Just received the birth cert of Thomas Henry LOVEDAY born 21 Dec 1866.  Only his mother Martha LOVEDAY is recorded and Thomas was born in the Union Workhouse Stratton St Margaret.

Martha Loveday went on to be Martha HOLLAND who in 1907 looked after Thomas's daughter Eliza Jane before she was placed in Barnados in 1908.

I am still trying to find what happened to Thomas Henry LOVEDAY.  I can find no death for him in the UK at all; I can only find 1 migration shipping record for a  possibility who went to Aussie.  Unfortunately that was not him.

Have I missed anything, where could he be?

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Re: Thomas Loveday married Elizabeth Davies in Cardiff 1890
« Reply #70 on: Monday 19 July 10 20:03 BST (UK) »
he could have been on a ship as crew. How about the States? Have you tried the Ellis Island site?

http://www.ellisisland.org/
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas Loveday married Elizabeth Davies in Cardiff 1890
« Reply #71 on: Monday 19 July 10 20:06 BST (UK) »

Just tried that no luck?

he could have been on a ship as crew. How about the States? Have you tried the Ellis Island site?

http://www.ellisisland.org/